1 00:00:01,270 --> 00:00:13,129 HELLO. 2 00:00:13,129 --> 00:00:18,270 I'M DR.VALERIE NEIL, A HISTORIAN HERE AND CHAIR AT THE 3 00:00:18,270 --> 00:00:19,500 SPACE HISTORY DEPARTMENT. 4 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:24,190 WE ARE IN THE MOVING BEYOND EARTH GALLERY AT THE 5 00:00:24,190 --> 00:00:27,000 SMITHSONIAN'S NATIONAL AIR AND SPACE MUSEUM. 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,010 FOR A PROGRAM SPONSORED BY BOEING COMPANY. 7 00:00:29,010 --> 00:00:34,060 WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR ONLINE AUDIENCE TODAY. 8 00:00:34,060 --> 00:00:39,460 OUR AUDIENCE ON NASA TELEVISION AND GIVE A SPECIAL WELCOME TO 9 00:00:39,460 --> 00:00:42,620 STUDENTS WHO ARE HERE FROM ONE OF THE WASHINGTON, D.C. 10 00:00:42,620 --> 00:00:45,680 SCHOOLS, THE WHITTIER EDUCATION CAMPUS. 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:51,780 WE'RE GLAD TO SEE VISITORS FROM THE MUSEUM HERE AS WELL TODAY 12 00:00:51,780 --> 00:00:52,780 ALSO. 13 00:00:52,780 --> 00:00:57,300 WE GATHERED TODAY TO HAVE A PROGRAM ON SALLY RIDE, CURATING 14 00:00:57,300 --> 00:01:02,730 HER LIFE, BECAUSE THE MUSEUM JUST ACCEPTED A GENEROUS 15 00:01:02,730 --> 00:01:07,020 DONATION OF PERSONAL POSSESSIONS AND PAPERS FROM SALLY RIDE. 16 00:01:07,020 --> 00:01:13,810 AND AS YOU KNOW, SALLY RIDE WAS AMERICA'S FIRST WOMAN ASTRONAUT. 17 00:01:13,810 --> 00:01:18,539 SHE WAS NOT A GIRL WHO ASPIRED TO BE AN ASTRONAUT, BECAUSE WHEN 18 00:01:18,539 --> 00:01:21,359 SHE WAS GROWING UP, ONLY MEN WERE ASTRONAUTS. 19 00:01:21,359 --> 00:01:26,329 BUT JUST AS SHE WAS FINISHING HER EDUCATION, SHE REALIZED THAT 20 00:01:26,329 --> 00:01:31,360 NASA WAS RECRUITING WOMEN FOR THE FIRST TIME AS SHE THOUGHT, I 21 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,929 CAN DO THAT, BECAUSE SHE WAS A SCIENTIST, SHE WAS INTERESTED IN 22 00:01:35,929 --> 00:01:38,630 PHYSICS AND ASTROPHYSICS. 23 00:01:38,630 --> 00:01:42,210 AND SPACE HELD A GREAT DEAL OF INTEREST TO HER. 24 00:01:42,210 --> 00:01:47,139 SHE APPLIED AND WAS SELECTED IN 1978, ALONG WITH FIVE OTHER 25 00:01:47,139 --> 00:01:51,539 WOMEN, WHO WERE THE FIRST WOMEN SELECTED IN THE UNITED STATES TO 26 00:01:51,539 --> 00:01:57,359 BE AN ASTRONAUT AND FURTHER SELECTED TO FLY ON THE SEVENTH 27 00:01:57,359 --> 00:02:04,200 SPACE SHUTTLE MISSION IN 1983 AS THE FIRST WOMAN IN SPACE FOR THE 28 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,380 UNITED STATES. 29 00:02:05,380 --> 00:02:09,830 SHE FLEW AGAIN THE NEXT YEAR, WITH ANOTHER FIRST WOMAN, KATHY 30 00:02:09,830 --> 00:02:13,520 SULLIVAN, WHO DID THE FIRST EXTRA VEHICULAR ACTIVITY. 31 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:20,020 THEY BOTH MADE HISTORY AND SALLY ESPECIALLY BECAME AN ICONIC 32 00:02:20,020 --> 00:02:21,020 OBJECT. 33 00:02:21,020 --> 00:02:24,800 SHE BECAME A CELEBRITY OVERNIGHT, SOMETHING SHE HAD 34 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,830 NEVER IMAGINED OR PREPARED FOR. 35 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:32,770 AND SHE BECAME A NATIONAL HERO, A ROLE MODEL FOR MILLIONS OF 36 00:02:32,770 --> 00:02:37,100 YOUNG WOMEN, GIRLS, AND EVEN ADULT WOMEN WHO NOW REALIZED 37 00:02:37,100 --> 00:02:41,550 THAT WHATEVER YOU ASPIRE TO BE, IF YOU WORKED HARD, YOU COULD 38 00:02:41,550 --> 00:02:42,800 ACHIEVE IT. 39 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,930 EVEN ACHIEVE BEING AN ASTRONAUT. 40 00:02:45,930 --> 00:02:50,920 HOWEVER SALLY HERSELF DID NOT SEE HERSELF AS AN ICON. 41 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:54,240 SHE SAW HERSELF AS A SCIENTIST AND AN EDUCATOR. 42 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,070 AND WHEN SHE LEFT NASA, SHE WENT BACK INTO THE WORLD OF EDUCATION 43 00:02:57,070 --> 00:03:02,320 AND SPENT A FULL 25 YEARS TEACHING PHYSICS AT THE 44 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,880 UNIVERSITY LEVEL AND THEN FOUNDING SALLY RIDE'S SCIENCE. 45 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,100 SO WE'RE HERE TO HONOR THE COLLECTION THAT WE ARE RECEIVING 46 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:17,390 BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS MANY ASPECTS OF HER LIFE. 47 00:03:17,390 --> 00:03:22,690 UNFORTUNATELY SALLY DIED TOO YOUNG AND TOO SOON. 48 00:03:22,690 --> 00:03:23,690 IN 2012. 49 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:30,690 AND IT HAS FALLEN TO HER VERY BEST FRIEND, HER EXECUTOR, AND 50 00:03:30,690 --> 00:03:38,600 HER PARTNER IN TENNIS, IN RIDING AND IN LIFE, TO CURATE HER LIFE, 51 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:44,030 TO BE THE CUSTODIAN OF HER POSSESSIONS AND PAPERS AND ALSO 52 00:03:44,030 --> 00:03:45,590 HER LIFE'S STORY. 53 00:03:45,590 --> 00:03:50,580 AND I†-- WE HAVE WITH US TODAY DR.†TAM O'SHAUGHNESSY WHO IS 54 00:03:50,580 --> 00:03:51,590 THAT PERSON. 55 00:03:51,590 --> 00:03:59,850 SHE IS HERSELF A SCIENTIST AND EDUCATOR AND SHE IS NOW THE 56 00:03:59,850 --> 00:04:01,380 PRESIDENT, CO-FOUNDER AND CEO OF SALLY RIDE SCIENCE. 57 00:04:01,380 --> 00:04:03,350 AND IT IS THROUGH HER GENEROSITY THAT THE MUSEUM IS ACCEPTING A 58 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:13,450 COLLECTION OF ALMOST 200 OBJECTS BELONGING TO SALLY RIDE AND ALSO 59 00:04:13,450 --> 00:04:18,109 BOXES AND BOXES OF PAPERS, BOOKS AND NOTEBOOKS. 60 00:04:18,109 --> 00:04:23,740 WE ALSO HAVE TODAY DR.†MARGARET LIEDCAMP IN THE SPACE HISTORY 61 00:04:23,740 --> 00:04:25,039 DEPARTMENT. 62 00:04:25,039 --> 00:04:31,979 SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT 5,000 OF THE 60,000 OBJECTS HELD 63 00:04:31,979 --> 00:04:34,530 BY THE MUSEUM. 64 00:04:34,530 --> 00:04:41,249 AND PATTY WILLIAMS, WHO IS OUR ACQUISITION ARCHIVIST AND SHE IS 65 00:04:41,249 --> 00:04:44,860 VERY ACTIVE IN COLLECTING THE PAPERS, PEOPLE BOTH FAMOUS AND 66 00:04:44,860 --> 00:04:45,860 LESS FAMOUS. 67 00:04:45,860 --> 00:04:48,900 AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM ALL OF THESE WOMEN AS WE GO THROUGH 68 00:04:48,900 --> 00:04:49,900 OUR PROGRAM TODAY. 69 00:04:49,900 --> 00:04:51,439 ALL FOUR OF THEM WORK TOGETHER TO ASSEMBLE THIS COLLECTION. 70 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:54,860 AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS 71 00:04:54,860 --> 00:04:57,650 TO REACH THIS POINT TODAY. 72 00:04:57,650 --> 00:05:03,349 I SHOULD SAY THAT DURING THE PROGRAM WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS 73 00:05:03,349 --> 00:05:04,349 FROM THE AUDIENCE. 74 00:05:04,349 --> 00:05:08,979 ALL THOSE THAT ARE PRESENT HERE AND OUR ONLINE AUDIENCE AND 75 00:05:08,979 --> 00:05:10,490 WE'RE GOING TO START BY TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO CURATE A 76 00:05:10,490 --> 00:05:11,490 PERSON'S LIFE. 77 00:05:11,490 --> 00:05:14,970 HOW DOES ONE LOOK AT OBJECTS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT STORIES THEY 78 00:05:14,970 --> 00:05:24,379 TELL, WHICH ARE THE MEMORABLE STORIES OF THAT PERSON'S LIFE, 79 00:05:24,379 --> 00:05:32,931 AND MORE PARTICULARLY, WHAT CHOICES DID WE MAKE, WHAT 80 00:05:32,931 --> 00:05:38,939 DECISIONS DID WE MAKE AND WHY WHEN WE'RE ASSEMBLING A 81 00:05:38,939 --> 00:05:39,939 COLLECTION. 82 00:05:39,939 --> 00:05:46,530 AND EVEN BEYOND THAT, HOW DO ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE DISPLAYED 83 00:05:46,530 --> 00:05:48,620 IN A MUSEUM COME INTO THE MUSEUM'S POSSESSION? 84 00:05:48,620 --> 00:05:51,240 WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE AN INTERESTING TOPIC FOR OUR 85 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,590 AUDIENCE TO CONSIDER, AND SOMETHING WE THOUGHT A LOT 86 00:05:53,590 --> 00:05:54,590 ABOUT. 87 00:05:54,590 --> 00:05:56,309 BEFORE WE START TALKING OURSELVES, THOUGH, LET'S LET 88 00:05:56,309 --> 00:06:02,259 SALLY TELL US ABOUT HERSELF AND HER OWN WORDS. 89 00:06:02,259 --> 00:06:06,979 I WAS SORT OF A TYPICAL SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA GIRL GROWING 90 00:06:06,979 --> 00:06:07,979 UP. 91 00:06:07,979 --> 00:06:08,979 I LOVED SPORTS. 92 00:06:08,979 --> 00:06:12,939 I WAS OUTSIDE ALL THE TIME ON THE TENNIS COURT, PROBABLY 93 00:06:12,939 --> 00:06:14,889 TWO-THIRDS OF MY WAKING HOURS. 94 00:06:14,889 --> 00:06:19,479 SO WHEN I WAS INSIDE, SCIENCE AND MATH WERE MY FAVORITE 95 00:06:19,479 --> 00:06:20,479 SUBJECTS. 96 00:06:20,479 --> 00:06:31,810 MAIN ENGINE START AND IGNITION AND LIFTOFF. 97 00:06:31,810 --> 00:06:57,639 LIFTOFF OF SBS 7 AND AMERICA'S FIRST WOMAN ASTRONAUT. 98 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:07,819 \M\M JUST AN UNBELIEVABLE 99 00:07:07,819 --> 00:07:16,960 PRIVILEGE THAT I WAS ABLE TO EXPERIENCE SPACE AT A TIME WHEN 100 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,889 SO FEW PEOPLE IN THE WORLD HAVE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY. 101 00:07:18,889 --> 00:07:20,629 I CHERISH THAT EVERY DAY. 102 00:07:20,629 --> 00:07:21,860 YOU KNEW SALLY THE BEST, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START BY 103 00:07:21,860 --> 00:07:23,210 TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS YOU'VE GONE THROUGH OVER THE LAST TWO 104 00:07:23,210 --> 00:07:24,210 AND A HALF YEARS? 105 00:07:24,210 --> 00:07:25,210 SURE, ABSOLUTELY. 106 00:07:25,210 --> 00:07:26,210 VALERIE SAID MY NAME IS TAM O'SHAUGHNESSY. 107 00:07:26,210 --> 00:07:28,009 I AM CURRENTLY THE CO-FOUNDER AND CEO OF SALLY RIDE SCIENCE, 108 00:07:28,009 --> 00:07:33,229 WHICH IS A SCIENCE EDUCATION COMPANY IN SAN DIEGO. 109 00:07:33,229 --> 00:07:37,770 AND PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY I WAS SALLY'S, YOU KNOW, WE MET 110 00:07:37,770 --> 00:07:42,219 WHEN WE WERE†-- I WAS 12 AND SHE WAS 13 YEARS OLD, PLAYING TENNIS 111 00:07:42,219 --> 00:07:45,919 IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WE BECAME GOOD FRIENDS. 112 00:07:45,919 --> 00:07:51,400 AND LATER BECAME PARTNERS IN LIFE AND OUR INTERESTS WERE SO 113 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,680 SIMILAR, WE ALSO STARTED WRITING CHILDREN'S SCIENCE BOOKS 114 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,879 TOGETHER AND THEN CO-FOUNDED THE COMPANY WITH SOME OF OUR FRIENDS 115 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:02,999 TO TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN SCIENCE AND MATH EDUCATION 116 00:08:02,999 --> 00:08:03,999 ACROSS OUR COUNTRY. 117 00:08:03,999 --> 00:08:08,199 WE STARTED SALLY RIDE SCIENCE. 118 00:08:08,199 --> 00:08:14,629 AND AS VALERIE SAID, SALLY DIED WAY TOO EARLY. 119 00:08:14,629 --> 00:08:18,060 MOST PEOPLE IN HER FAMILY, GRANDPARENTS AND SO ON, LIVED 120 00:08:18,060 --> 00:08:21,759 INTO THE 90s AND SALLY WAS PREPARED TO LIVE THAT LONG AND 121 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:23,399 DO MANY MORE FUN THINGS. 122 00:08:23,399 --> 00:08:24,930 BUT IT WAS NOT TO BE. 123 00:08:24,930 --> 00:08:30,719 AND ONCE SHE DIED, I QUICKLY REALIZED THAT I WANTED TO MAKE 124 00:08:30,719 --> 00:08:35,120 SURE THAT HER LEGACY AND WHO SHE REALLY WAS WAS PRESERVED, YOU 125 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,560 KNOW, FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. 126 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:42,390 AND SO WHAT I DID IS I HAD NO IDEA HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING THIS. 127 00:08:42,390 --> 00:08:46,620 AND I ENDED UP CALLING OUR FRIEND, SENATOR BARBARA 128 00:08:46,620 --> 00:08:51,260 MIKULSKI, GOOD SENATOR FROM MARYLAND, SHE'S JUST THIS 129 00:08:51,260 --> 00:08:55,771 WONDERFUL, FEISTY WOMAN AND SALLY AND I WOULD CALL ON HER 130 00:08:55,771 --> 00:08:57,050 FOR ADVICE ON OCCASION. 131 00:08:57,050 --> 00:09:02,010 SO I CALLED BARBARA AND ASKED HER, YOU KNOW, SALLY HAS†-- 132 00:09:02,010 --> 00:09:04,261 SALLY WAS A GREAT SAVER. 133 00:09:04,261 --> 00:09:09,140 YOU COULD SAY SHE COULD BE ON ONE OF THOSE HOARDING SHOWS, BUT 134 00:09:09,140 --> 00:09:11,010 IT WAS PRETTY BORDERLINE. 135 00:09:11,010 --> 00:09:14,650 SHE SAVED EVERYTHING FROM THE TIME SHE WAS A YOUNG KID, 136 00:09:14,650 --> 00:09:18,970 TICKETS TO DISNEY LAND, HER TENNIS CARD FROM THE SOUTHERN 137 00:09:18,970 --> 00:09:22,470 CALIFORNIA TENNIS ASSOCIATION WHEN SHE WAS 12 YEARS OLD, AND 138 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:23,470 SO ON. 139 00:09:23,470 --> 00:09:27,330 BUT IT ENDED UP BEING JUST THIS TREASURE TROVE OF STUFF THAT 140 00:09:27,330 --> 00:09:33,120 WAS, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT FOR ME TO PRESERVE AND DO SOMETHING 141 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,120 IMPORTANT WITH. 142 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:39,770 SO SENATOR MIKULSKI RECOMMENDED THE SMITHSONIAN, THE NATIONAL 143 00:09:39,770 --> 00:09:44,070 AIR AND SPACE MUSEUM AS THE PERFECT FIT AND PUT ME IN TOUCH 144 00:09:44,070 --> 00:09:45,700 WITH VALERIE. 145 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:52,400 AND VALERIE AND I HAD A VERY WONDERFUL TELEPHONE CONVERSATION 146 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:57,440 THAT KIND OF GAVE ME THE CONFIDENCE THAT I HAD FOUND THE 147 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,690 RIGHT HOME. 148 00:09:58,690 --> 00:10:05,070 AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT VALERIE, MARGARET AND PATTY, YOU 149 00:10:05,070 --> 00:10:09,460 KNOW, WE HAVE THE TWO CURATORS AND SPACE HISTORIANS THAT DEAL 150 00:10:09,460 --> 00:10:13,940 WITH THREE DIMENSIONAL OBJECTS AND THE ARCHIVIST, I JUST 151 00:10:13,940 --> 00:10:18,780 LEARNED YOU SAY ARCHIVIST, NOT ARCHIVIST, WHICH I'VE BEEN 152 00:10:18,780 --> 00:10:23,440 SAYING FOR MY WHOLE LIFE, ARCHIVIST, WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE 153 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:29,000 FOR GOING THROUGH ALL OF SALLY'S PAPERS, YOU KNOW. 154 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,460 VERY COOL STUFF FROM, YOU KNOW, HER ESSAYS ON SHAKESPEARE THAT 155 00:10:33,460 --> 00:10:40,060 SHE WROTE AT STANFORD, TO HER NOTES ON THE CHALLENGER ACCIDENT 156 00:10:40,060 --> 00:10:45,410 INVESTIGATION AND SOME OF HER, YOU KNOW, HER OBSERVATIONS THAT 157 00:10:45,410 --> 00:10:49,600 SOME OF THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE INVESTIGATION TEAM AND SO ON AND 158 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:50,600 SO FORTH. 159 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,630 SO THESE THREE CAME OUT TO MY HOME AND THIS WAS LESS THAN A 160 00:10:53,630 --> 00:10:58,620 YEAR AFTER SALLY HAD PASSED AWAY, SO I WAS STILL KIND OF 161 00:10:58,620 --> 00:11:04,850 RAGGED AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS EXCITED TO HAVE THEM COME AND 162 00:11:04,850 --> 00:11:07,350 LOOK THROUGH ALL OF SALLY'S THINGS. 163 00:11:07,350 --> 00:11:10,630 AND I HAD KIND OF†-- I HAD ALREADY BEEN TRYING TO ORGANIZE 164 00:11:10,630 --> 00:11:15,100 OUR HOME AND JUST KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS WHAT AND SALLY WAS 165 00:11:15,100 --> 00:11:16,780 ACTUALLY A VERY ORGANIZED PERSON. 166 00:11:16,780 --> 00:11:21,840 AND SHE HAD A PHYSICS STUDY WHERE SHE KEPT HER†-- ALL OF HER 167 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,060 PHYSICS BOOKS FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND THROUGH COLLEGE, SHE WOULD 168 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:31,750 NEVER GET RID OF THEM, SHE LOVED HER PHYSICS BOOKS AND HER SPACE 169 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:32,750 BOOKS. 170 00:11:32,750 --> 00:11:37,960 AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE SHE KEPT MOST OF HER NASA, YOU KNOW, 171 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,780 FILMS AND CHECKLISTS AND JUST ALL OF THIS STUFF. 172 00:11:42,780 --> 00:11:46,190 AND THEN WE HAD A STUDY TOGETHER THAT WAS KIND OF THE SALLY RIDE 173 00:11:46,190 --> 00:11:52,540 SCIENCE, OUR COMPANY STUDY WHERE WE KEPT A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER 174 00:11:52,540 --> 00:11:57,000 STUFF, SALLY RIDE TRIED TO ORGANIZE STUFF AND THESE THREE 175 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:03,060 CAME AND, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST DAY THAT THEY WERE AT MY HOUSE, 176 00:12:03,060 --> 00:12:07,250 WE BASICALLY SAT IN THE LIVING ROOM, YOU KNOW, DRINKING TEA OR 177 00:12:07,250 --> 00:12:10,540 SOMETHING, AND JUST TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE†-- 178 00:12:10,540 --> 00:12:14,590 WHAT I REMEMBER CLEARLY IS JUST THE RESPECT FOR WHAT WERE MY 179 00:12:14,590 --> 00:12:21,770 GOALS FOR GIVING SALLY'S POSSESSIONS TO THE NATIONAL AIR 180 00:12:21,770 --> 00:12:22,770 AND SPACE MUSEUM. 181 00:12:22,770 --> 00:12:26,310 AND WE ALL JUST SORT OF GOT ALONG AND THERE WAS THIS LEVEL 182 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:32,730 OF TRUST AND BELIEF THAT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING 183 00:12:32,730 --> 00:12:35,950 THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AND DO IT 184 00:12:35,950 --> 00:12:36,950 WELL. 185 00:12:36,950 --> 00:12:40,980 SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WAS CONCERNED WITH IS I WANTED AN 186 00:12:40,980 --> 00:12:45,710 INSTITUTION THAT WAS GOING TO BE AROUND FOR CENTURIES, THAT'S THE 187 00:12:45,710 --> 00:12:47,780 SMITHSONIAN FOR SURE. 188 00:12:47,780 --> 00:12:52,550 AND I ALSO WANTED A PLACE WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE CARE 189 00:12:52,550 --> 00:12:56,040 DEEPLY ABOUT SALLY, BUT NOT JUST†-- SALLY WAS AN ASTRONAUT 190 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,380 FOR TEN YEARS, SHE HAD, YOU KNOW, 31 OTHER YEARS THAT SHE 191 00:13:00,380 --> 00:13:01,380 DID OTHER THINGS. 192 00:13:01,380 --> 00:13:04,520 SHE WAS A PHYSICIST, SHE WAS A SCIENCE WRITER, SHE STARTED A 193 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,520 COMPANY. 194 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,980 AND SHE WAS VERY IMPORTANT ACROSS OUR COUNTRY WITH SPACE 195 00:13:08,980 --> 00:13:16,090 EXPLORATION, AND THE TWO ACCIDENT INVESTIGATIONS, AND, 196 00:13:16,090 --> 00:13:20,050 YOU KNOW, SHE ADVISED PRESIDENTS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF IS 197 00:13:20,050 --> 00:13:21,050 IMPORTANT. 198 00:13:21,050 --> 00:13:25,160 AND ANYWAY, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THESE THREE SORT OF BECAME 199 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:30,750 FRIENDS FOR LIFE, AND I COULD NOT BE MORE THRILLED THAT THIS 200 00:13:30,750 --> 00:13:33,620 IS THE HOME FOR SALLY'S STUFF. 201 00:13:33,620 --> 00:13:37,120 BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS HER TENNIS RACKET HAD SHE WAS, 202 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,560 LIKE, 13 YEARS OLD. 203 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:42,280 SO THIS WAS HER TELESCOPE WHEN SHE WAS A KID. 204 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,090 SO, ANYWAY, I'M THRILLED. 205 00:13:45,090 --> 00:13:47,510 WELL, WE WERE THRILLED TOO OBVIOUSLY. 206 00:13:47,510 --> 00:13:52,060 I'D LIKE TO TURN NOW TO MARGARET, WHO WAS THE PRINCIPLE 207 00:13:52,060 --> 00:13:53,060 COLLECTING CURATOR. 208 00:13:53,060 --> 00:13:57,200 AND I'LL REMIND THE AUDIENCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 209 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,000 QUESTIONS IN JUST A FEW MINUTES AFTER MARGARET SPEAKS. 210 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,430 SO BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK TAM OR 211 00:14:03,430 --> 00:14:05,520 MARGARET AS WE GO ALONG. 212 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,990 MARGARET, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. 213 00:14:08,990 --> 00:14:09,990 OKAY. 214 00:14:09,990 --> 00:14:12,880 WELL, I WORK WITH OUR†-- WHAT WE CALL OUR SOCIALLY CULTURAL 215 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,800 COLLECTION. 216 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,100 SOCIALLY CULTURAL DIMENSIONS IN SPACE FLIGHT, WHICH BASICALLY 217 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:20,980 MEANS OUR MEMORABILIA OF THE ACTUAL SPACE PROGRAM. 218 00:14:20,980 --> 00:14:24,120 THAT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS COLLECTION AND SO WHEN I HAVE AN 219 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:29,360 OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO SOMEONE'S HOME AND TO 220 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,360 THINK ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANT TO COLLECT, I'M REALLY TRYING TO 221 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,690 THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE OBJECTS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE AT THE 222 00:14:37,690 --> 00:14:40,460 MUSEUM SO THE GENERATIONS FROM NOW, WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW 223 00:14:40,460 --> 00:14:45,800 THE STORY OF THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE ACTUAL SPACE FLIGHT HAPPEN, 224 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,970 THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE RIGHT OBJECTS THAT TELL THAT STORY. 225 00:14:47,970 --> 00:14:51,490 AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN IS A BIT OF A SELECTION 226 00:14:51,490 --> 00:14:57,720 OF THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BRING HERE FROM 227 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,670 SALLY RIDE'S PERSONAL EFFECTS. 228 00:15:00,670 --> 00:15:03,600 AND SO I KNEW RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT WE WERE GOING TO WANT TO 229 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,280 ADD TO WHAT THE MUSEUM HAD FROM SALLY RIDE. 230 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,680 YOU'LL SEE BEHIND ME, IF YOU'RE IN THE ROOM, WE HAVE SALLY 231 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,810 RIDE'S FLIGHT SUIT THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE MUSEUM IN THE 1980s 232 00:15:16,810 --> 00:15:20,510 AND THAT'S ON DISPLAY HERE IN THIS GALLERY AND THE MOVEMENT 233 00:15:20,510 --> 00:15:21,930 BEYOND EARTH EXHIBIT. 234 00:15:21,930 --> 00:15:25,340 I KNEW WE WANTED TO TAKE THAT AND THEN WE ALSO WANTED TO 235 00:15:25,340 --> 00:15:30,960 REALLY BUILD INTO A WHOLE LIFE, WHO WAS THIS WOMAN, AND I 236 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,120 ACTUALLY STARTED MY CAREER AS A WOMEN'S HISTORIAN AND LATER GOT 237 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,500 INTERESTED IN SPACE HISTORY. 238 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:41,630 REALLY AWARE OF HOW PIVOTAL SALLY RIDE WAS AS AN AMERICAN 239 00:15:41,630 --> 00:15:44,370 WOMAN AND HOW MUCH HER STORY DOVE TAILED WITH REALLY 240 00:15:44,370 --> 00:15:48,700 IMPORTANT STORIES ABOUT THE WOMEN IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE 241 00:15:48,700 --> 00:15:49,700 20th CENTURY. 242 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:54,000 SO FOR INSTANCE, THE FACT THAT SHE PLAYED ORGANIZED SPORTS, AS 243 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,390 A YOUTH, AND SHE COMPETED IN TENNIS TOURNAMENTS AND SO SHE 244 00:15:58,390 --> 00:16:01,870 AND HER FRIENDS WERE PART OF THIS, AND REALLY TELLS US THE 245 00:16:01,870 --> 00:16:07,100 STORY ABOUT WOMEN AS PHYSICALLY ACTIVE†-- GETTING INTO ORGANIZED 246 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:17,420 SPORTS AND SHE PREDATED TITLE NINE WHICH SAID YOU HAD TO HAVE 247 00:16:17,420 --> 00:16:25,340 EQUAL FUNDING FOR MEN'S AND WOMEN'S EDUCATION, AND SHE WAS 248 00:16:25,340 --> 00:16:28,570 ONE OF THE VERY BEST TENNIS PLAYERS AT STANFORD AND DID NOT 249 00:16:28,570 --> 00:16:32,040 HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS AN ATHLETIC 250 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,300 SCHOLARSHIP FOR WOMEN AT THE TIME. 251 00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:38,710 BEING ABLE TO BRING IN THE TENNIS RACKET THAT YOU SEE IN 252 00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:43,660 FRONT OF YOU AND ON THE SCREEN BEGAN TO ALLOW US TO TELL SOME 253 00:16:43,660 --> 00:16:45,870 OF THAT STORY. 254 00:16:45,870 --> 00:16:49,740 AND IT REALLY WAS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE SPACE FLIGHT STORY 255 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:50,740 AS WELL. 256 00:16:50,740 --> 00:16:53,190 THE PART OF SALLY RIDE'S APPLICATION, WHAT MADE HER STAND 257 00:16:53,190 --> 00:16:57,040 OUT FOR THE FOLKS WHO WERE THE MANAGERS AT NASA WAS THAT THEY 258 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,630 LOOKED AT HER TENNIS PLAYING AND THOUGHT THIS IS SOMEONE WHO 259 00:16:59,630 --> 00:17:03,540 KNOWS HOW TO PLAY A TEAM SPORT, SHE'S COACHABLE, SHE'S PHYSICAL. 260 00:17:03,540 --> 00:17:05,230 SHE KNOWS HOW TO FOLLOW DIRECTION. 261 00:17:05,230 --> 00:17:08,329 IF YOU ASK HER TO DO A SET OF PHYSICAL TASKS, SHE'S SOMEONE 262 00:17:08,329 --> 00:17:11,959 WHO IS ADEPT AT THAT, KNOWS HOW TO GET ALONG WITH TEAMMATES. 263 00:17:11,959 --> 00:17:16,230 YOU CAN TALK TO HER AND SHE WILL BE ABLE TO REALLY PARTICIPATE IN 264 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:17,370 THAT WAY. 265 00:17:17,370 --> 00:17:22,410 AND SO THE IMPORTANCE OF HER TENNIS PLAYING WAS IN MANY WAYS 266 00:17:22,410 --> 00:17:26,010 A REAL BRIDGE THEN TO HER SPACE FLIGHT. 267 00:17:26,010 --> 00:17:29,850 AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE SCREEN, WE ALSO†-- IN THE ARCHIVAL 268 00:17:29,850 --> 00:17:34,040 COLLECTION, WE FOUND A LETTER FROM HERS AND YOUR FRIEND, 269 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:39,809 BILLIE JEAN KING, A NOTE TO SALLY IN 1983, THAT BILLY JEAN 270 00:17:39,809 --> 00:17:44,990 WAS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND HER LAUNCH BUT MAKING THE 271 00:17:44,990 --> 00:17:49,610 CONNECTION BETWEEN HER CAREER AS AN ATHLETE AND CAREER AS A SPACE 272 00:17:49,610 --> 00:17:50,610 FLYER. 273 00:17:50,610 --> 00:17:53,940 AND BILLIE JEAN KING IS THE WOMAN WHO BROKE OPEN WOMEN'S 274 00:17:53,940 --> 00:17:54,940 PROFESSIONAL TENNIS. 275 00:17:54,940 --> 00:17:55,940 YES. 276 00:17:55,940 --> 00:18:00,360 THE SAME WAY THAT SALLY RIDE BROKE OPEN THE ASTRONAUT†-- 277 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:06,100 AND DEMANDED PARITY IN TERMS OF PAY AND IMPORTANT THINGS FOR 278 00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:10,390 VISIBILITY AND FOR THE MATCH WITH BOBBY GRIGGS AND IN TERMS 279 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:13,970 OF THE STRUCTURE FOR WOMEN. 280 00:18:13,970 --> 00:18:17,850 SO THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS DOING, AND YOU TRY TO BE†-- 281 00:18:17,850 --> 00:18:20,340 REALIZE YOU'RE GOING INTO SOMEONE'S HOME AND ALL OF A 282 00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:22,620 SUDDEN YOU'VE GONE FROM, YOU KNOW, HAVING ALL OF THESE THINGS 283 00:18:22,620 --> 00:18:26,160 TO HAVING THESE CURATORS CRAWLING INTO YOUR CLOSET AND 284 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,030 DIGGING UNDER THE DESK AND SAYING WHAT'S THIS AND WHAT'S 285 00:18:30,030 --> 00:18:32,950 THAT, ONE OF THE LESSONS THAT I GOT WHEN I CAME HERE TO THE 286 00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:36,060 MUSEUM 11 YEARS AGO WAS FROM ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES, ONE OF OUR 287 00:18:36,060 --> 00:18:40,570 DIRECTORS, ASSOCIATE DIRECTORS, VERY FAMOUS PILOT, AND HE WOULD 288 00:18:40,570 --> 00:18:43,940 TELL THE STORY THAT AS A VERY FAMOUS PILOT, ANYTIME HE WENT 289 00:18:43,940 --> 00:18:45,920 ANYWHERE SOMEONE WOULD GIVE HIM A PLAQUE. 290 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,060 CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, KIWANIS CLUB, THERE WOULD BE A PLAQUE 291 00:18:50,060 --> 00:18:53,160 FOR HIM WHEN HE SPOKE. 292 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,780 AS MUCH AS HE REALLY APPRECIATED THOSE THINGS, HE HAD A LOT OF 293 00:18:55,780 --> 00:18:56,780 THEM. 294 00:18:56,780 --> 00:19:01,050 HE HAD A HABIT†-- AN ARMY DUFFEL BAG AND HE WOULD PUT THEM IN HIS 295 00:19:01,050 --> 00:19:04,770 PLAQUE SACK, WHERE HE KEPT THOSE THINGS. 296 00:19:04,770 --> 00:19:07,720 AND THE ADVICE HE HAD GIVEN TO SOME OF THE CURATOR WAS DON'T 297 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,980 COLLECT THE PLAQUE SACK. 298 00:19:09,980 --> 00:19:12,230 WHEN YOU GO IN AND YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THESE 299 00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:16,730 LASTING OBJECTS THAT TELL A STORY, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SORT 300 00:19:16,730 --> 00:19:20,370 IS THAT THE PERSON THEMSELVES HAVE DONE, WHAT DID THEY THINK 301 00:19:20,370 --> 00:19:21,370 WAS IMPORTANT? 302 00:19:21,370 --> 00:19:23,780 AND SO HOW DO YOU SORT THOSE THINGS OUT. 303 00:19:23,780 --> 00:19:27,830 SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR ATTENTION WAS DRAWN TO WAS THE 304 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:31,180 SHAPIRO AWARD, WHICH IS HERE ON THE TABLE IN FRONT OF US. 305 00:19:31,180 --> 00:19:36,890 IT IS A BACCARAT GLASS BOWL, ENGRAVED AND GIVEN TO SALLY RIDE 306 00:19:36,890 --> 00:19:41,150 IN 2004 IN RECOGNITION OF HER EDUCATIONAL ENDEAVORS AND THE 307 00:19:41,150 --> 00:19:44,290 WORK THAT SHE HAD DONE WITH SALLY RIDE SCIENCE. 308 00:19:44,290 --> 00:19:48,950 AND SHE WAS TREMENDOUSLY PROUD OF THAT, WHICH IS A PUBLIC 309 00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:50,560 SERVICE AWARD. 310 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,490 SO SHE HAD BEEN VERY PUBLICLY RECOGNIZED†-- THIS IS A PICTURE 311 00:19:54,490 --> 00:19:59,650 OF SALLY WITH HER FRIENDS AND CO-WORKERS AND COLLABORATORS AT 312 00:19:59,650 --> 00:20:01,980 THE AWARDING OF THE SHAPIRO AWARD. 313 00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:05,190 SHE HAD BEEN VERY PUBLICLY RECOGNIZED FOR HER WORK IN SPACE 314 00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:08,030 FLIGHT, HER WORK AS THE FIRST AMERICAN WOMAN IN SPACE, HER 315 00:20:08,030 --> 00:20:10,720 WORK AS THE AUTHOR OF WHAT BECAME KNOWN AS THE RIDE REPORT, 316 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,570 WHICH WAS REALLY A DEFINING VISION DOCUMENT FOR NASA. 317 00:20:15,570 --> 00:20:18,980 BUT PERSONALLY SHE WAS ALSO VERY PROUD OF HER PUBLIC SERVICE AND 318 00:20:18,980 --> 00:20:21,660 HER EDUCATION WORK AND I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE 319 00:20:21,660 --> 00:20:25,400 TO BRING AN OBJECT INTO THE COLLECTION THAT WOULD TELL THAT 320 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,960 STORY AND THAT IS WE'RE LOOKING TO RECORD A WHOLE LIFE THAT WE 321 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,410 WOULD HAVE EVERYTHING FROM THE TENNIS RACKET TO THE SHAPIRO 322 00:20:33,410 --> 00:20:36,690 AWARD THAT WOULD TELL A LITTLE BIT OF THE STORY OF THE ARK OF 323 00:20:36,690 --> 00:20:37,690 WHO THIS VERY IMPORTANT WOMAN WAS. 324 00:20:37,690 --> 00:20:39,410 THANK YOU FOR THAT. 325 00:20:39,410 --> 00:20:46,940 WHY DON'T WE TAKE A MOMENT TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS 326 00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:50,059 FROM THE AUDIENCE AND OUR ONLINE GUESTS. 327 00:20:50,059 --> 00:20:54,700 I THINK WE HAVE AN ONLINE QUESTION ALREADY CUED UP AND 328 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:59,380 WHAT WAS THE MOST SURPRISING THING YOU LEARNED ABOUT SALLY 329 00:20:59,380 --> 00:21:03,170 RIDE DURING YOUR RESEARCH? 330 00:21:03,170 --> 00:21:07,550 I GUESS THAT COULD BE ANSWERED BY ANY OF US. 331 00:21:07,550 --> 00:21:08,550 WHY DON'T YOU START? 332 00:21:08,550 --> 00:21:11,880 FOR ME, I SAID THAT THE SOCIAL AND CULTURAL COLLECTION 333 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,240 INCLUDES OUR MEMORABILIA OF ACTUAL SPACE FLIGHT. 334 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,130 IT ALSO INCLUDES SPACE SCIENCE FICTION OBJECTS. 335 00:21:17,130 --> 00:21:21,640 OBJECTS THAT TELL THE STORY OF HOW SPACE HAS BEEN IMAGINED. 336 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,370 AND I WAS PARTICULARLY PERSONALLY THRILLED TO FIND THAT 337 00:21:25,370 --> 00:21:29,210 SALLY RIDE WAS A STAR TREK FAN. 338 00:21:29,210 --> 00:21:33,420 SO MANY PEOPLE WHO BUILD AND DESIGN AND TEST AND FLY 339 00:21:33,420 --> 00:21:36,600 SPACECRAFT ARE FANS OF SPACE SCIENCE FICTION. 340 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,520 BUT IT TURNED OUT THAT SALLY RIDE WAS NOT ONLY PERSONALLY A 341 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:46,190 STAR TREK FAN, AND AVID STAR TREK FAN, BUT THAT SHE ALSO HAD 342 00:21:46,190 --> 00:21:50,150 BEEN BROUGHT IN WHEN VOYAGER, THE STAR TREK FRANCHISE SHOW WAS 343 00:21:50,150 --> 00:21:53,260 STARTED IN THE 1990s. 344 00:21:53,260 --> 00:21:59,600 THEY INVITED SALLY RIDE, A WOMAN HAS CATHERINE JANEWAY AS THE 345 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,320 CAPTAIN OF THE SHIP, AND SO THEY INVITED THE FIRST AMERICAN WOMAN 346 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,640 IN SPACE, SALLY RIDE, TO BE AT A PREMIERE OF THAT SHOW AND GAVE 347 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,130 HER A COMMUNICATOR PIN, ONE OF THE STAR TREK EMBLEM PINS THAT 348 00:22:12,130 --> 00:22:16,470 WAS ACTUALLY A PROP FROM THE SHOW, NOT JUST A FAN PIECE. 349 00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:20,140 AND SO BEING ABLE TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION TELLS SO MANY RICH 350 00:22:20,140 --> 00:22:23,620 STORIES THAT ARE REALLY A CORE IT WHAT WE DO HERE AT THE 351 00:22:23,620 --> 00:22:24,620 MUSEUM. 352 00:22:24,620 --> 00:22:25,620 I WAS VERY EXCITED. 353 00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:28,170 I THINK THAT WAS IN THE COMPOSITE PICTURE WE SHOWED. 354 00:22:28,170 --> 00:22:29,170 YES, IT IS. 355 00:22:29,170 --> 00:22:30,570 IT WAS IN THE PICTURE. 356 00:22:30,570 --> 00:22:32,420 THE MEDALS AND MEDALLIONS. 357 00:22:32,420 --> 00:22:35,020 WE HAVE A QUESTION HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. 358 00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:42,510 WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK YOUR QUESTION? 359 00:22:42,510 --> 00:22:47,050 KEEP TALKING. 360 00:22:47,050 --> 00:22:53,610 [ INAUDIBLE ] DO WE KNOW†-- YEAH, DO WE 361 00:22:53,610 --> 00:22:56,190 KNOW WHAT PROMPTED HER TO BECOME AN ASTRONAUT? 362 00:22:56,190 --> 00:23:00,750 YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST NAME AGAIN? 363 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:03,210 [ INAUDIBLE ] DENESHA. 364 00:23:03,210 --> 00:23:06,030 THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 365 00:23:06,030 --> 00:23:11,130 AS VALERIE SORT OF SAID, VALERIE†-- SALLY†-- 366 00:23:11,130 --> 00:23:14,770 I'VE BEEN CALLED THAT BEFORE. 367 00:23:14,770 --> 00:23:17,590 SALLY REALLY NEVER HAD THAT GOAL IN MIND. 368 00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:22,160 WHAT HAPPENED TO HER IS THAT†-- IT IS KIND OF AN IMPORTANT 369 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,220 DOUBLE LESSON. 370 00:23:24,220 --> 00:23:26,860 SHE WAS PREPARED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY. 371 00:23:26,860 --> 00:23:29,750 SHE WAS BASICALLY EATING BREAKFAST IN THE†-- IN HER 372 00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:31,980 COLLEGE CAFETERIA. 373 00:23:31,980 --> 00:23:35,190 AND SHE SAW THE STUDENT NEWSPAPER AND IT SAID THAT NASA 374 00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:37,309 WAS LOOKING FOR WOMEN ASTRONAUTS. 375 00:23:37,309 --> 00:23:39,350 AND WANTED THEM TO APPLY. 376 00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:41,540 IT WAS THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY. 377 00:23:41,540 --> 00:23:44,950 AND SO SALLY SAW THAT AND SHE JUST HAD THIS MOMENT WHERE IT 378 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:47,580 WAS, LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I WANT TO DO THAT. 379 00:23:47,580 --> 00:23:50,520 AND BEFORE THAT, SHE WAS THINKING THAT SHE WOULD BE A 380 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,100 UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR AND KEEP DOING RESEARCH, AND, YOU KNOW, 381 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,799 LIVE THE GOOD LIFE ON A COLLEGE CAMPUS. 382 00:23:55,799 --> 00:24:00,370 IT WAS REALLY SERENDIPITY A LITTLE BIT, BUT SHE WAS ALSO 383 00:24:00,370 --> 00:24:06,910 PREPARED BECAUSE SHE HAD STUDIED MATH AND SCIENCE, AND SO ON. 384 00:24:06,910 --> 00:24:13,340 HER ASTRONAUT CLASSMATES INDICATED TOO ONCE SHE BECAME AN 385 00:24:13,340 --> 00:24:14,340 ASTRONAUT, SHE TOTALLY EMBRACED IT. 386 00:24:14,340 --> 00:24:15,340 SHE WORKED HARDER. 387 00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:16,940 SHE WORKED LONGER. 388 00:24:16,940 --> 00:24:17,940 SHE WAS DETERMINED TO MASTER EVERY SKILL THAT WAS REQUIRED. 389 00:24:17,940 --> 00:24:21,890 BUT THEN THERE CAME A POINT IN HER LIFE AFTER TEN YEARS OF 390 00:24:21,890 --> 00:24:24,110 DOING THAT WHEN SHE REALIZED THAT WASN'T THE ONLY THING SHE 391 00:24:24,110 --> 00:24:25,840 WANTED TO DO. 392 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:32,390 I THINK THERE IS A LESSON IN THAT, DON'T YOU? 393 00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:33,390 SURE. 394 00:24:33,390 --> 00:24:35,480 YOU DON'T HAVE TO STICK WITH THE SAME THING FOR YOUR WHOLE 395 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,480 LIFE. 396 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,480 FOLLOW YOUR HEART. 397 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,480 THANK YOU. 398 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,480 GOOD QUESTION. 399 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,480 MY NAME IS†-- I'M FROM WILLIAM. 400 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:50,880 MY QUESTION IS, WHAT WAS HER ASPIRATION IN LIFE BEFORE SHE 401 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,880 BECAME AN ASTRONAUT? 402 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,940 THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION TOO. 403 00:24:52,940 --> 00:24:58,690 I'M JUST GOING TO JUMP IN. 404 00:24:58,690 --> 00:25:00,300 SALLY THOUGHT OF HERSELF AS A PHYSICIST. 405 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:05,190 SHE HAD A VERY IMPORTANT TEACHER IN HIGH SCHOOL, DR.†MO MARTS. 406 00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:11,440 THAT TEACHER ENCOURAGED HER INTEREST IN SCIENCE AND TOLD HER 407 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,790 SHE SHOULD TAKE ONE OF THOSE†-- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT, 408 00:25:15,790 --> 00:25:21,720 SALLY WAS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT, SHE TOOK A COLLEGE CLASS. 409 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,770 AND THAT TEACHER HELPED HER DECIDE TO BECOME A PHYSICIST, 410 00:25:26,770 --> 00:25:29,831 EVEN THOUGH SALLY HAD NO CLUE WHAT A PHYSICIST WAS OR WHAT 411 00:25:29,831 --> 00:25:30,831 THEY DID. 412 00:25:30,831 --> 00:25:34,740 SO†-- DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? 413 00:25:34,740 --> 00:25:38,630 SHE WAS THINKING SHE WOULD WORK AT A UNIVERSITY, TEACH, DO 414 00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:42,010 RESEARCH, AND THAT WOULD BE HER LIFE. 415 00:25:42,010 --> 00:25:45,890 I'M GOING TO BREAK IN HERE TO MAKE A LITTLE REMARK TOO. 416 00:25:45,890 --> 00:25:49,950 I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT DR.†O'SHAUGHNESSY HAS JUST 417 00:25:49,950 --> 00:25:53,710 WRITTEN A BIOGRAPHY OF SALLY RIDE, THAT TELLS A LOT OF 418 00:25:53,710 --> 00:25:55,810 STORIES OF HER YOUTH. 419 00:25:55,810 --> 00:25:59,640 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND SURPRISING IS THAT WHEN SHE WAS 420 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:05,501 IN HIGH SCHOOL, HER FRIENDS THOUGHT SHE WAS AN 421 00:26:05,501 --> 00:26:06,501 UNDERACHIEVER. 422 00:26:06,501 --> 00:26:11,160 AND SOMEONE EVEN WROTE THAT IN HER YEARBOOK, SHE WAS A CLASSIC 423 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,160 UNDERACHIEVER. 424 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,620 BUT SHE FOUND HERSELF WHEN SHE WAS IN HER 20s. 425 00:26:13,620 --> 00:26:19,220 AND THAT'S WHEN SHE REALLY PUT HER WHOLE HEART INTO IT. 426 00:26:19,220 --> 00:26:20,220 OKAY. 427 00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:22,390 LET'S MOVE ON TO ANOTHER QUESTION. 428 00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:24,640 DO WE HAVE AN ONLINE QUESTION? 429 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,640 QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE? 430 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,640 OKAY. 431 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,350 WE'LL COME BACK TO Q†&†A IN A MINUTE THEN. 432 00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:36,280 WELL, I'M NEXT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT AS I AS A CURATOR WAS 433 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,280 LOOKING FOR. 434 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,970 I'M THE CURATOR FOR THE SPACE SHUTTLE AND ALL THE OBJECTS 435 00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:45,840 RELATED TO THE ASTRONAUTS WHO FLEW DURING THE PERIOD OF THE 436 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,840 SPACE SHUTTLE. 437 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,840 AND WHEN I CAME HERE, WE ALREADY HAD SALLY RIDE'S FLIGHT SUIT AND 438 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,060 HAD IT ON DISPLAY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 439 00:26:54,060 --> 00:26:58,660 BUT I WAS INTERESTED IN WHAT ELSE WE MIGHT FIND FROM HER 440 00:26:58,660 --> 00:27:00,470 CAREER AS AN ASTRONAUT. 441 00:27:00,470 --> 00:27:05,740 AND WHAT WE MIGHT FIND FROM HER EARLIER LIFE THAT GAVE SOME 442 00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:10,280 INSIGHT INTO HOW SHE ENDED UP BECOMING A ASTRONAUT. 443 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,840 SO TWO OF THE OBJECTS THAT I WAS PARTICULARLY PLEASED TO FIND 444 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,799 WERE THE TELESCOPE WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE IS A CHILD SIZE STARTER 445 00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:25,160 KIT FOR A TELESCOPE THAT HER PARENTS HAD GIVEN HER WHEN SHE 446 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,250 WAS QUITE YOUNG BECAUSE SHE WAS ALREADY CURIOUS ABOUT NATURE, 447 00:27:29,250 --> 00:27:32,880 SHE WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE SKY, THE CONSTELLATIONS, SHE JUST 448 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,770 WANTED TO LEARN EVERYTHING THERE WAS TO LEARN AND SO THEY GAVE 449 00:27:36,770 --> 00:27:44,480 HER AND HER SISTER TO SHARE A TELESCOPE AND ALSO A MICROSCOPE. 450 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,670 AND SO WE SELECTED BOTH OF THOSE AND HER SISTER, WHO IS ABOUT TWO 451 00:27:46,670 --> 00:27:54,650 YEARS YOUNGER, REMEMBERED VERY CLEARLY, THEY USED TO TAKE THE 452 00:27:54,650 --> 00:27:55,660 TELESCOPE OUT AT NIGHT INTO THE FRONT YARD AND LOOK AT THE STARS 453 00:27:55,660 --> 00:27:57,900 AND THE PLANETS AND SPECULATE ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE OUT THERE. 454 00:27:57,900 --> 00:27:58,900 SO THAT WAS GOOD TO FIND. 455 00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:03,890 WE ALSO FOUND SLIDE RULES THAT SHE HAD USED WHEN SHE WAS A 456 00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:06,900 PHYSICS MAJOR IN UNIVERSITY CLASSES. 457 00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:13,481 THE HELMET, I WAS ALSO DELIGHTED TO FIND, BECAUSE WHILE WE HAD A 458 00:28:13,481 --> 00:28:17,850 FLIGHT SUIT FOR SPACE FLIGHT, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING REALLY TO 459 00:28:17,850 --> 00:28:19,850 INDICATE HER LOVE OF AVIATION. 460 00:28:19,850 --> 00:28:26,590 ALL ASTRONAUTS LEARN TO FLY IN THE P-38 JET TRAINER. 461 00:28:26,590 --> 00:28:30,549 ONLY THE PILOT ASTRONAUTS GET TO SIT IN THE FRONT SEAT. 462 00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:34,740 BUT THE SCIENTIST ASTRONAUTS SIT BEHIND THEM AND THEY SERVE AS 463 00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:35,740 NAVIGATORS. 464 00:28:35,740 --> 00:28:38,240 AND THEY LEARN THE WHOLE PROCESS OF NAVIGATION. 465 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,660 AND THEY WEAR NASA ISSUED FLIGHT SUITS FOR THAT. 466 00:28:41,660 --> 00:28:42,660 APPARENTLY THEY CAN CHOOSE THEIR OWN HELMET. 467 00:28:42,660 --> 00:28:43,660 SO THIS WAS SALLY'S HELMET. 468 00:28:43,660 --> 00:28:47,670 AND I LIKED IT IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE IT IS COLOR COORDINATED 469 00:28:47,670 --> 00:28:55,710 TO HER FLIGHT SUIT AND IT HAS HER NAME IN A FLOURISHING SCRIPT 470 00:28:55,710 --> 00:28:58,490 ON THE BACK, JUST ABOVE THE NECK. 471 00:28:58,490 --> 00:29:02,220 AND TO ME THIS WAS†-- I MAY BE COMPLETELY OFF BASE, IT MAY NOT 472 00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:08,720 HAVE BEEN IN HER MIND AT ALL, BUT TO ME THIS AT LEAST 473 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,440 SUGGESTED THAT SOMETHING KIND OF STEREO TYPICALLY FEMININE WAS IN 474 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,140 HER CHARACTER TOO, THAT SHE WANTED TO MATCH. 475 00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:17,929 AND SHE DIDN'T WANT HER NAME SCRIBBLED ON HER HELMET, SHE 476 00:29:17,929 --> 00:29:22,450 WANTED IT TO LOOK NICE, LOOK PRETTY. 477 00:29:22,450 --> 00:29:24,309 SO WE COLLECTED THESE. 478 00:29:24,309 --> 00:29:30,940 I ALSO COLLECTED SOME OF HER BADGES FROM HER YEARS AT NASA 479 00:29:30,940 --> 00:29:33,870 INCLUDING HER VISITOR BADGE FROM WHEN SHE WENT TO NASA TO 480 00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:36,630 INTERVIEW , TO BE AN ASTRONAUT. 481 00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:38,220 AND HER ASTRONAUT BADGE. 482 00:29:38,220 --> 00:29:46,400 AND THEN TAM AT THE END OF THE VISIT TOOK US INTO ONE MORE ROOM 483 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,190 THAT HAD A TRUNK IN IT. 484 00:29:48,190 --> 00:29:55,790 AND THIS WAS ANOTHER INSTANCE THAT SALLY CURATING HER OWN 485 00:29:55,790 --> 00:29:56,790 LIFE. 486 00:29:56,790 --> 00:30:00,400 IN THAT TRUNK SHE HAD PUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS REALLY 487 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,450 SPECIAL TO HER, THAT SHE WANTED TO BE SURE WAS KEPT. 488 00:30:01,450 --> 00:30:04,820 AND THAT'S WHERE THE ASTRONAUT CLOTHING AND THE HELMET WERE, 489 00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:09,990 THAT'S WHERE THE BADGES WERE, THAT'S WHERE SOME SPECIAL AWARDS 490 00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:12,810 AND MEDALS AND MEDALLIONS WERE. 491 00:30:12,810 --> 00:30:16,320 AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF WARM T-SHIRTS WERE. 492 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,440 AND I DON'T MEAN NEW T-SHIRTS STILL IN PLASTIC WRAP, I MEAN 493 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,400 T-SHIRTS WITH SWEAT STAINS AND THEY WERE FADED, THEY WERE 494 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,660 WRINKLED, THEY HAD BEEN LAUNDERED, BUT THEY WERE ALL 495 00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:35,370 LINKED TO HER FLIGHT OR TO THE FACT SHE WAS A FEMALE ASTRONAUT. 496 00:30:35,370 --> 00:30:40,090 AND ONE OF THEM SAID, A WOMAN'S PLACE IS NOW IN SPACE. 497 00:30:40,090 --> 00:30:44,750 AND ONE OF THEM SAID, WELL, YES, I AM SALLY RIDE'S FATHER. 498 00:30:44,750 --> 00:30:53,360 AND ONE OF THEM HAD AN ENLARGEMENT OF THE LOGO FOR HER 499 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,511 FIRST MISSION, WHICH SUDDENLY HAD IN IT THE SYMBOLS FOR MALE 500 00:30:56,511 --> 00:30:57,511 AND FEMALE, SO THERE WERE FOUR MALE SYMBOLS AND ONE FEMALE. 501 00:30:57,511 --> 00:30:58,511 SO THESE WERE ALL THINGS THAT SHE CARED ABOUT AND USED. 502 00:30:58,511 --> 00:31:01,270 AND SO I COLLECTED A NUMBER OF THOSE. 503 00:31:01,270 --> 00:31:14,180 AND I THINK THAT INDICATED TO ME THAT WE ALL CURATE OUR OWN LIVES 504 00:31:14,180 --> 00:31:19,800 TO A CERTAIN EXTENT BY WHAT WE CHOOSE TO KEEP AND WHERE WE 505 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,800 CHOOSE TO KEEP IT. 506 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,800 AND MARGARET WAS THE FIRST TO ARTICULATE THAT AMONG US. 507 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,730 BUT THEN I REALIZED THAT IT IS NOT UNCOMMON. 508 00:31:23,730 --> 00:31:28,440 I THINK WE ALL DO THAT. 509 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,480 AND THEN†-- I'M GOING TO JUMP IN AND TELL 510 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,919 ONE BAD STORY ON YOU, WHICH IS THAT THE CURATOR ALSO HAS TO 511 00:31:34,919 --> 00:31:36,750 MAKE VERY HARD CHOICES. 512 00:31:36,750 --> 00:31:39,820 BECAUSE ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WAS IN THAT TRUNK IS A 513 00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:43,190 FLIGHT SUIT THAT IS VERY SIMILAR, NOT THE SAME, VALLEY 514 00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:46,560 WOULD POINT OUT AS THE ONE WE ALREADY HAVE ON DISPLAY AT THE 515 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,560 MUSEUM. 516 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,630 AND VALERIE VERY BADLY WANTED A SECOND FLIGHT SUIT. 517 00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:55,250 WHEN WE COME BACK TO THE MUSEUM, THEY'RE GOING TO ASK, THEY'RE 518 00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:56,950 GOING TO SAY, WE HAVE A FLIGHT SUIT. 519 00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:58,630 WHY DO YOU NEED A SECOND ONE. 520 00:31:58,630 --> 00:32:02,070 AND PATTY AND I KIND OF COLLECTIVELY TALKED VALERIE DOWN 521 00:32:02,070 --> 00:32:05,730 FROM YOU CAN'T HAVE†-- YOU CANNOT HAVE EVERYTHING AND YOU 522 00:32:05,730 --> 00:32:07,890 HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICES. 523 00:32:07,890 --> 00:32:10,710 AND WE KIND OF†-- ON OUR WAY TO THE AIRPORT KEPT THINKING 524 00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:13,500 VALERIE WILL TURN THE CAR AND GO FLYING BACK TO THAT TRUNK 525 00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:18,230 BECAUSE SHE DESPERATELY WANTS THE NEXT FLIGHT SUIT. 526 00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:19,960 IT HAD SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PATCHES. 527 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,110 WHEN WE COME BACK TO THE MUSEUM, THEY'RE GOING TO ASK HARD 528 00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:25,429 QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY DID YOU GET A SECOND FLIGHT SUIT WHEN WE 529 00:32:25,429 --> 00:32:29,289 VERY CLEARLY†-- YOU KNOW WE HAVE ONE. 530 00:32:29,289 --> 00:32:31,360 THE MUSEUM HAS ONE. 531 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,580 SO SOMETIMES EVEN†-- SOMETIMES THE SORTING IS EASIER AND THEN 532 00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:38,559 SOMETIMES YOU'RE MAKING VERY†-- IT IS A HARD CHOICE TO LEAVE 533 00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:42,309 BEHIND THINGS THAT ARE KEPT IN VERY GOOD HANDS BUT YOU WOULD 534 00:32:42,309 --> 00:32:46,309 LOVE TO ARE IN THE NATIONAL COLLECTION AND HAVE TO MAKE SOME 535 00:32:46,309 --> 00:32:47,309 HARD CHOICES. 536 00:32:47,309 --> 00:32:48,309 YOU DID LET ME TAKE A FLIGHT†-- 537 00:32:48,309 --> 00:32:52,400 THE FLIGHT JACKET IS A DIFFERENT GARMENT. 538 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,400 RIGHT. 539 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,429 PATTY, LET'S TALK ABOUT PAPERS. 540 00:32:55,429 --> 00:32:57,320 THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT UNIVERSE. 541 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,320 YES, IT IS. 542 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,980 AS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING HERE ABOUT THE ARTIFACTS AND PEOPLE 543 00:33:00,980 --> 00:33:03,800 THINK ABOUT MUSEUMS, THEY IMMEDIATELY THINK, OF COURSE, 544 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,070 ARTIFACTS, BUT THE MUSEUM HAS A VERY, VERY FINE COLLECTION OF 545 00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:10,100 PAPERS DEALING WITH AVIATION IN SPACE HISTORY. 546 00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:15,970 IN FACT, WE HAVE OVER 17,000 LINEAR FEET OF PAPERS. 547 00:33:15,970 --> 00:33:19,289 AND HISTORICALLY THEY ALWAYS HAVE DEALT WITH THE 548 00:33:19,289 --> 00:33:20,289 TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES. 549 00:33:20,289 --> 00:33:23,020 WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE AVIATION AND SPACE FIELD. 550 00:33:23,020 --> 00:33:26,620 I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THE ACQUISITION ARCHIVIST FOR 26 551 00:33:26,620 --> 00:33:31,070 YEARS AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY KEEN TO COLLECT THE PAPERS OF 552 00:33:31,070 --> 00:33:34,299 THE PEOPLE BEHIND THOSE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES BECAUSE I 553 00:33:34,299 --> 00:33:37,240 REALLY THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE HISTORY. 554 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,820 AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY THE CASE WHEN IT COMES TO COLLECTING 555 00:33:39,820 --> 00:33:43,400 PAPERS ON WOMEN AND MINORITIES BECAUSE THEIR STORIES ON 556 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,960 PARTICIPATING IN THESE TECHNOLOGICAL MALE ORIENTED 557 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,929 FIELDS REALLY TOUCHES ON A LOT OF SOCIAL AND CULTURAL ASPECTS 558 00:33:51,929 --> 00:33:54,940 THAT MAKE AVIATION AND SPACE HISTORY THAT MUCH RICHER. 559 00:33:54,940 --> 00:33:59,120 AND SO I AM DELIGHTED WHEN TAM REACHED OUT TO US AND SAID SHE 560 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,020 HAD THIS MATERIAL. 561 00:34:01,020 --> 00:34:03,140 AND WHEN I WENT OUT THERE, I WAS LOOKING FOR†-- I WAS EXCITED 562 00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:04,650 ABOUT IT FOR TWO REASONS. 563 00:34:04,650 --> 00:34:08,740 NUMBER ONE, I KNEW OUR RESEARCHERS IN GENERAL WOULD BE 564 00:34:08,740 --> 00:34:12,570 VERY INTERESTED IN JUST THE GENERAL SPACE AVIATION MATERIAL 565 00:34:12,570 --> 00:34:13,570 THAT WAS IN IT. 566 00:34:13,570 --> 00:34:17,849 BUT THEN TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SALLY'S ICONIC ROLE AS THE FIRST 567 00:34:17,849 --> 00:34:21,740 AMERICAN WOMAN IN SPACE WOULD BE A WONDERFUL RESOURCE FOR 568 00:34:21,740 --> 00:34:23,260 RESEARCHERS AND OUR STAFF. 569 00:34:23,260 --> 00:34:25,811 AND IT WOULD ALSO HELP COMPLIMENT THE ARTIFACTS THAT 570 00:34:25,811 --> 00:34:29,849 VALERIE AND MARGARET WERE PICKING UP. 571 00:34:29,849 --> 00:34:33,750 SO I WENT OUT THERE, AND I WAS LOOKING NOT ONLY TO COLLECT 572 00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:37,409 MATERIAL DEALING WITH HER SPACE ACCOMPLISHMENTS, BUT JUST LIKE 573 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:41,099 VALERIE AND MARGARET, I WAS LOOKING TO PUT THE SPACE 574 00:34:41,099 --> 00:34:46,040 ACCOMPLISH S AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE INTO THE CONTEXT OF HER ENTIRE 575 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,213 LIFE AND HER PROFESSIONAL CAREER. 576 00:34:48,213 --> 00:34:50,869 AND SO I WAS GOING TO GO OUT THERE LOOKING FOR MATERIAL THAT 577 00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:53,679 WAS SELECTED BEFORE SHE WAS AN ASTRONAUT AND THEN, OF COURSE, 578 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,679 THE PERIOD SHE WAS AN ASTRONAUT, AND IN THAT LARGE SEGMENT 579 00:34:56,679 --> 00:35:04,050 AFTERWARDS WHEN SHE WAS DOING†-- BEING A SCIENTIST AND PROFESSOR 580 00:35:04,050 --> 00:35:05,580 AND ADVOCATE FOR STEM EDUCATION. 581 00:35:05,580 --> 00:35:09,130 I TOOK 24 LINEAR FEET OF MATERIAL, EVERYTHING TAM WOULD 582 00:35:09,130 --> 00:35:14,430 LET ME TAKE FROM THE HOUSE, AND YOU SAID SALLY WAS A HOARDER. 583 00:35:14,430 --> 00:35:16,570 I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 26 YEARS. 584 00:35:16,570 --> 00:35:19,250 I HAVE BEEN IN HOARDER HOUSES. 585 00:35:19,250 --> 00:35:20,300 YOUR HOUSE IS GREAT. 586 00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:22,440 AND SALLY WAS VERY ORGANIZED. 587 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,960 AGAIN, SHE'S VERY MUCH CURATED HER MATERIAL. 588 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,750 ALMOST EVERYTHING I RAN ACROSS, I SAID, WOW, THAT REALLY PUT S 589 00:35:28,750 --> 00:35:34,109 THIS ASPECT OF HER CAREER IN A SHARP CONTRAST TO OTHER PARTS. 590 00:35:34,109 --> 00:35:36,190 SO I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL VERY USEFUL. 591 00:35:36,190 --> 00:35:39,150 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH MY SEGMENT IS SHOW YOU SOME 592 00:35:39,150 --> 00:35:42,370 EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE MATERIAL I SELECTED. 593 00:35:42,370 --> 00:35:46,450 AND I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH MATERIAL THAT I THINK MOST 594 00:35:46,450 --> 00:35:49,630 PEOPLE WOULD SAY, OF COURSE YOU COLLECTED THIS MATERIAL, DEALING 595 00:35:49,630 --> 00:35:51,240 WITH HER ASTRONAUT CAREER. 596 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:58,030 AND WHAT WAS ON THE SCREEN WAS THE CHECKLIST FOR THE COMMANDING 597 00:35:58,030 --> 00:36:03,230 ARM THAT SHE DID ON HER FIRST FLIGHT, AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT 598 00:36:03,230 --> 00:36:08,630 SLIDE, WE CAN SEE THESE WERE†-- THIS SAN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE 599 00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:09,930 TRAINING MANUALS SHE HAD. 600 00:36:09,930 --> 00:36:13,260 WE COLLECTED ABOUT TWO LINEAR FEET OF MATERIAL JUST DEALING 601 00:36:13,260 --> 00:36:16,100 WITH HER ASTRONAUT TRAINING AND HER MANUALS. 602 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:20,840 YOU CAN SEE ON THE SKETCH HERE THE CANADIAN ARM COMING OUT THE 603 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:21,840 TOP. 604 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,130 THAT WAS ONE OF SALLY'S TASKS SHE WAS TO DO. 605 00:36:24,130 --> 00:36:27,580 SHE WAS THE FIRST WOMAN TO DO IT IN SPACE AND THAT HELPED HER 606 00:36:27,580 --> 00:36:29,790 RETRIEVE THE SATELLITE. 607 00:36:29,790 --> 00:36:35,099 WHAT I LOVE ABOUT HER TRAINING MATERIALS IS THAT SHE HAS MARKED 608 00:36:35,099 --> 00:36:38,030 UP†-- SHE HIGHLIGHTED LIKE YOU WOULD FOR ANY CLASS THAT YOU 609 00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:42,220 WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE YOU PASSED THE SCAM, HIGHLIGHTED 610 00:36:42,220 --> 00:36:45,520 THINGS AND SHE ALSO ANNOTATED THINGS ALONG THE WAY. 611 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,359 THAT WILL BE USEFUL FOR RESEARCHERS WHO ARE INTERESTED 612 00:36:48,359 --> 00:36:50,950 IN UNDERSTANDING THE TRAINING THAT THE SPACE SHUTTLE 613 00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:52,560 ASTRONAUTS WERE GOING THROUGH. 614 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:58,150 I WOULD LIKE TO SEGUE TO A COUPLE OF THINGS, TALKING ABOUT 615 00:36:58,150 --> 00:37:02,020 SALLY'S ICONIC ROLE AS BEING THE FIRST AMERICAN WOMAN IN SPACE. 616 00:37:02,020 --> 00:37:09,970 IT WAS A REALLY BIG DEAL, THE PUBLIC ARENA AND ALSO ON A 617 00:37:09,970 --> 00:37:10,980 PRIVATE LEVEL. 618 00:37:10,980 --> 00:37:14,230 SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE CARTOON. 619 00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:15,910 HERE IS A CARTOON FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS STAR TRIBUNE. 620 00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:20,560 THIS IS TOUCHING ON†-- THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT SALLY EVIDENTLY 621 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,950 HAD CAREFULLY CUT OUT AND SAVED. 622 00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:27,810 TALKING ABOUT THE STEREOTYPES THAT SHE HAD TO DEAL WITH 623 00:37:27,810 --> 00:37:32,900 BECOMING THE FIRST WOMAN ASTRONAUT IN SPACE. 624 00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:35,380 AND I DID THINK IT IS VERY INDICATIVE ON THE THINGS 625 00:37:35,380 --> 00:37:38,400 HAPPENING ON A LARGER SCALE. 626 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,670 BUT IF WE GO TO THE†-- IT SHOWED SOMETHING ON A MORE INTIMATE 627 00:37:42,670 --> 00:37:43,670 SCALE. 628 00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:46,920 THIS IS A LETTER SHE GOT FROM SOMEBODY SHE DIDN'T KNOW, LINDA 629 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:52,710 HALPERN AND SHE CONTACTED SALLY AND SENT HER A COPY OF THIS 630 00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:56,430 LETTER THAT IS BEING SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. 631 00:37:56,430 --> 00:37:59,970 LINDA, WHEN SHE WAS A GIRL, IN 1962, SENT A LETTER TO PRESIDENT 632 00:37:59,970 --> 00:38:03,270 KENNEDY ASKING HOW SHE CAN BECOME A WOMAN ASTRONAUT. 633 00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:05,690 AND PRESIDENT KENNEDY SENT IT OVER TO NASA, WHO WROTE HER BOOK 634 00:38:05,690 --> 00:38:09,590 AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BUT WOMEN AREN'T 635 00:38:09,590 --> 00:38:12,510 ASTRONAUTS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE TRAINING AND YOU'RE NOT 636 00:38:12,510 --> 00:38:14,240 PHYSICALLY ABLE TO DO IT. 637 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:18,920 AND LINDA HAD ACTUALLY SAVED THIS, SENT A COPY OF THIS ALONG 638 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:25,140 WITH A LETTER TO SALLY SAYING, FOR ME, THIS IS SUCH AN EXCITING 639 00:38:25,140 --> 00:38:27,590 THING THAT YOU'RE FINALLY BREAKING THE BARRIER FOR ALL OF 640 00:38:27,590 --> 00:38:29,770 US THAT WERE DENIED THAT OPPORTUNITY. 641 00:38:29,770 --> 00:38:31,650 I REALLY LOVE THIS EXAMPLE. 642 00:38:31,650 --> 00:38:34,960 AND THERE IS LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF THIS FROM SENATORS, FAMOUS 643 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,330 PEOPLE, TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T FAMOUS AT ALL, LIKE THIS WOMAN 644 00:38:38,330 --> 00:38:41,330 WHO GREW UP TO BE A†-- SHE'S A TORT LAWYER BUT MADE AN 645 00:38:41,330 --> 00:38:42,530 IMPRESSION ON HER. 646 00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:46,050 FROM THERE, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AFTER SHE FLEW, SHE 647 00:38:46,050 --> 00:38:50,150 CONTINUED TO PLAY VERY IMPORTANT ROLES IN NASA AS MARGARET TALKED 648 00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:51,150 ABOUT. 649 00:38:51,150 --> 00:38:57,570 SHE DID†-- WAS THE MAIN AUTHOR ON†-- LED THE REPORT, A 650 00:38:57,570 --> 00:38:59,180 STRATEGICALLY WHERE NASA SHOULD GO. 651 00:38:59,180 --> 00:39:03,750 SHE SAT ON SEVERAL COMMISSIONS THAT WERE VERY IMPORTANT. 652 00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:08,090 THIS IS ONE OF HER NOTEBOOKS, SHE WAS ON THE ROGERS COMMISSION 653 00:39:08,090 --> 00:39:15,840 WHICH WAS DEALING WITH THE DISASTER, THE "CHALLENGER" 654 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,130 ACCIDENT. 655 00:39:17,130 --> 00:39:21,490 AND SHE WAS THE ONLY ASTRONAUT THAT WAS ASKED TO BE ON THIS. 656 00:39:21,490 --> 00:39:24,099 THIS IS THE OUTSIDE OF THE NOTEBOOK. 657 00:39:24,099 --> 00:39:27,330 IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE CAN SHOW THESE ARE ACTUALLY THE 658 00:39:27,330 --> 00:39:30,590 NOTES THAT SHE WROTE AS SHE WAS GOING THROUGH THESE. 659 00:39:30,590 --> 00:39:32,070 THESE ARE FASCINATING. 660 00:39:32,070 --> 00:39:34,550 INTERESTING FOR RESEARCHERS THAT WERE GOING THROUGH WHAT THE 661 00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:37,000 PROBLEMS WERE WITH THAT FLIGHT WHEN IT EXPLODED. 662 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,060 AND WHAT THE COMMISSION MEMBERS SPECIFICALLY SALLY WERE THINKING 663 00:39:40,060 --> 00:39:42,570 ABOUT HOW TO GET NASA BACK ON TRACK. 664 00:39:42,570 --> 00:39:46,950 SHOWING THE PROBLEMS WITH†-- THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARTS, 665 00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:51,370 DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME, DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES. 666 00:39:51,370 --> 00:39:54,320 SO MAJOR PROBLEM THAT NASA WAS HAVING. 667 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,610 THAT'S THE THINGS PEOPLE WOULD EXPECT US TO HAVE. 668 00:39:56,610 --> 00:40:02,060 I ALSO COLLECTED, IF WE CAN GO TO HER PHYSICS†-- I DON'T KNOW 669 00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:06,480 HOW WELL YOU CAN SEE THIS, SHE DID KEEP ALL HER PHYSICS 670 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,480 HOMEWORK. 671 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,220 THIS IS, LIKE, AMAZING. 672 00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:12,960 I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THIS SAYS OR MEANS BECAUSE I'M A 673 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,400 HISTORIAN, BUT THE FACT SHE KEPT IT AND WAS SO INTERESTED IN IT, 674 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,580 I THINK IT REALLY SPEAKS. 675 00:40:19,580 --> 00:40:20,740 I TOOK THEM ALL. 676 00:40:20,740 --> 00:40:24,560 I TOOK PROBABLY A BOX OF HER UNDERGRADUATE WORK. 677 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,609 SHE HAD AN UNDERGRADUATE DEGREE IN PHYSICS AND ENGLISH AND YOU 678 00:40:29,609 --> 00:40:33,270 CAN SEE HOW THAT JUST REALLY†-- BEING A PHYSICIST WAS VERY 679 00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:34,270 IMPORTANT TO HER. 680 00:40:34,270 --> 00:40:36,150 NOT ONLY DOES SHE KEEP ALL THOSE, IT SHOWED HOW INTERESTED 681 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:41,220 SHE WAS IN SCIENCE AND I ALSO COLLECTED MATERIALS DEALING WITH 682 00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:42,220 WHAT HAPPENED. 683 00:40:42,220 --> 00:40:44,200 I'M SORRY, GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE. 684 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,869 I WANTED TO SHOW HOW IT CONTINUED ON. 685 00:40:46,869 --> 00:40:51,180 THIS IS AFTER SHE LEFT NASA, SHE WENT BACK, SHE WAS THE PROFESSOR 686 00:40:51,180 --> 00:40:55,240 AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SAN DIEGO AND SHE PUBLISHED OVER 687 00:40:55,240 --> 00:41:00,790 40 PAPERS, MOSTLY BASED ON HER PHYSICS RESEARCH, SO SHE WAS AN 688 00:41:00,790 --> 00:41:02,420 INCREDIBLE PHYSICIST. 689 00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:06,441 THE OTHER ONE YOU CAN GO TO NOW IS HER ENGLISH HOMEWORK WHICH I 690 00:41:06,441 --> 00:41:13,040 LOVE BECAUSE THE PROFESSOR WROTE ON THIS, I HOPE YOU'RE AS GOOD 691 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,869 AT PHYSICS AS YOU ARE IN LITERATURE, WHICH YOU'RE VERY 692 00:41:15,869 --> 00:41:17,560 FINE INDEED. 693 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,060 AND I THINK ONE REASON I COLLECTED HER HOMEWORK FROM 694 00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:26,350 COLLEGE IS THAT IT REALLY SHOWED HOW SHE WAS SETTING HERSELF UP 695 00:41:26,350 --> 00:41:29,200 TO BE AN EXCELLENT SCIENTIST AND A GREAT COMMUNICATOR, WHICH IS 696 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,150 WHAT HER ENGLISH DEGREE BROUGHT HER. 697 00:41:31,150 --> 00:41:33,980 THAT'S WHY SHE WAS SO SOUGHT AFTER ON COMMISSIONS. 698 00:41:33,980 --> 00:41:39,010 SHE WAS A PERSON OF INTEGRITY, BUT SHE†-- SHE COULD COMMUNICATE 699 00:41:39,010 --> 00:41:40,980 IT WITH OTHERS. 700 00:41:40,980 --> 00:41:44,660 THAT'S WHAT MADE HER SO VERY SUCCESSFUL. 701 00:41:44,660 --> 00:41:47,060 AND THEN THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO DO IS I HAVE TO SHOW MY 702 00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:52,630 FAVORITE PICTURE I FOUND, WHICH IS A MOCKED UP PICTURE OF SALLY 703 00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:56,700 READING A CHILDHOOD BOOK AND SOMEBODY HAD DONE A THOUGHT 704 00:41:56,700 --> 00:42:01,400 BUBBLE AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONTROLS IN HER†-- ON THE SPACE 705 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,400 SHUTTLE. 706 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,200 AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY†-- I DIDN'T SEE THIS THE FIRST TIME 707 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,240 AROUND UNTIL I GOT BACK. 708 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:09,130 THIS IS ACTUALLY IN THAT FIRST MANUAL I SHOWED YOU ON THE FIRST 709 00:42:09,130 --> 00:42:14,980 PAGE, SHE TOOK THAT UP INTO SPACE WITH HER TO REMIND HER. 710 00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:19,270 THE PICTURE OF SALLY WITH THE BOOK IS A GREAT SEGUE BACK TO 711 00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:20,270 TAM. 712 00:42:20,270 --> 00:42:22,740 LET TAM TALK FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES IF YOU WOULD LIKE ABOUT 713 00:42:22,740 --> 00:42:28,080 THE PROCESS OF WRITING YOUR NEW BOOK, A VERY PERSONAL BIOGRAPHY 714 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,300 OF SALLY, BY THE PERSON WHO KNEW HER BEST IN THE WORLD. 715 00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:34,670 WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE WITH US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IS IT 716 00:42:34,670 --> 00:42:38,320 LIKE TO BE A BIOGRAPHER? 717 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:44,150 YOU KNOW, I STARTED†-- I THOUGHT ABOUT WRITING CHILDREN'S 718 00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:48,150 BOOKS ABOUT SALLY FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS. 719 00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:52,080 AND I STARTED WORKING ON IT SIX MONTHS AFTER SALLY DIED AND I†-- 720 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:59,310 IT WAS SIMULTANEOUSLY TORTURE TO BE THINKING ABOUT HER, LOOKING 721 00:42:59,310 --> 00:43:01,359 THROUGH PHOTOGRAPHS AND SO ON. 722 00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:07,100 BUT IT WAS ALSO VERY COMFORTING AND A GOOD PROCESS FOR ME. 723 00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:13,650 AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT I REALLY CARED ABOUT WAS WRITING A BOOK 724 00:43:13,650 --> 00:43:16,349 THAT TOLD A STORY, KIND OF THE TRUE STORY ABOUT SALLY. 725 00:43:16,349 --> 00:43:23,650 WHO SHE WAS, WHAT SHE WAS REALLY LIKE, WHAT SHE CARED ABOUT, AND 726 00:43:23,650 --> 00:43:26,250 AT LEAST SOME OF THE VERY COOL THINGS THAT SHE ACCOMPLISHED. 727 00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:28,570 YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, BEING THE FIRST AMERICAN WOMAN TO FLY IN 728 00:43:28,570 --> 00:43:34,300 SPACE, BUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF TOO THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS A 729 00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:37,690 PERSON, SHE DIDN'T CASH IN ON HER CELEBRITY. 730 00:43:37,690 --> 00:43:39,100 SHE WORKED. 731 00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:45,310 AND SHE DIVED INTO THE THINGS THAT INTERESTED HER, AND WORKED 732 00:43:45,310 --> 00:43:46,310 REALLY HARD. 733 00:43:46,310 --> 00:43:51,100 AND I JUST†-- I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT STORY FOR BOYS AND 734 00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:53,440 GIRLS, YOU KNOW, ACROSS OUR COUNTRY TO KNOW. 735 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,820 AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY PERSONAL 736 00:43:58,820 --> 00:44:05,109 BOOK AND BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS SO IMPORTANT IS 737 00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:09,280 THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW BIOGRAPHIES, ESPECIALLY ABOUT 738 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:14,890 AMERICAN HEROES, WHO ARE GAY OR BISEXUAL OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, 739 00:44:14,890 --> 00:44:18,010 WHATEVER THE RIGHT LITTLE BOX IS. 740 00:44:18,010 --> 00:44:22,900 BUT SO I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TELL THE TRUE 741 00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:23,900 STORY. 742 00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:28,869 AND, YOU KNOW, YOUNG PEOPLE ARE VERY SAVVY AND YOUNG PEOPLE, YOU 743 00:44:28,869 --> 00:44:38,160 KNOW, EVEN IN UPPER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ARE†-- THEY'RE SMART AND 744 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,650 THEY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD AND THEY HAVE OPINIONS AND 745 00:44:42,650 --> 00:44:49,710 I THINK YOUNG PEOPLE, MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN US OLDER FOLKS, YOU 746 00:44:49,710 --> 00:44:53,250 KNOW, KIND OF RESPECT INDIVIDUALITY AND PEOPLE'S 747 00:44:53,250 --> 00:44:54,550 DECISIONS. 748 00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:58,740 ANYWAY, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS AN IMPORTANT STORY TO GET RIGHT, 749 00:44:58,740 --> 00:45:01,610 AND TO BE HONEST ABOUT. 750 00:45:01,610 --> 00:45:06,460 AND WHAT I REALLY HOPE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO 751 00:45:06,460 --> 00:45:10,000 HAPPEN TO READ THE BOOK, YOU KNOW, KIND OF COME AWAY AND GO, 752 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,480 WOW, WHAT A FUN AND FULL LIFE SALLY RIDE HAD. 753 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,920 AND THEN THE OTHER THING I KIND OF HOPED THAT THEY COME AWAY 754 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:23,470 WITH IS SORT OF, LIKE, YOU KNOW, HMM, YOU KNOW, LOVE IS LOVE, NO 755 00:45:23,470 --> 00:45:25,960 MATTER THE GENDER OF THE COUPLE. 756 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,770 LOVE IS THE BOTTOM LINE. 757 00:45:28,770 --> 00:45:32,460 SO AND I WAS VERY FORTUNATE BECAUSE SALLY DID SAVE SO MANY, 758 00:45:32,460 --> 00:45:39,700 YOU KNOW, I HAD JUST THIS TREASURE OF PHOTOGRAPHS AND SO, 759 00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:42,740 YOU KNOW, I'M LUCKY†-- I WORKED HARD ON THE WRITING AND I DID 760 00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:44,400 THE WRITING FIRST. 761 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,190 AND THEN I HAD GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS, I KIND OF 762 00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:53,589 KNEW WHICH ONES WOULD FIT IN THE VARIOUS PLACES, BUT I WROTE THE 763 00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:57,220 STORY FIRST AND THEN ADDED THE PHOTOGRAPHS. 764 00:45:57,220 --> 00:46:01,001 THE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE JUST AMAZING, YOU KNOW, AND JUST HELP 765 00:46:01,001 --> 00:46:04,210 TELL THE STORY OF HER LIFE. 766 00:46:04,210 --> 00:46:07,120 AND WE HAVE THAT BOOK HERE TODAY, AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER 767 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,680 THIS PROGRAM TAM WILL BE GOING TO OUR SHOP AND WILL BE SIGNING 768 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,680 BOOKS THERE. 769 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,900 IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED, YOU CAN CHAT WITH HER FOR A FEW MINUTES, 770 00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:22,900 TALK ABOUT THE BOOK AND HAVE A LITTLE ONE ON ONE TIME TO ASK 771 00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:24,570 SOME OTHER QUESTIONS. 772 00:46:24,570 --> 00:46:26,820 BUT BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT THE PROGRAM, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A 773 00:46:26,820 --> 00:46:29,520 FEW MORE QUESTIONS FROM OUR AUDIENCE. 774 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,980 WE HAVE A COUPLE LINED UP. 775 00:46:32,980 --> 00:46:35,350 GO AHEAD, PLEASE. 776 00:46:35,350 --> 00:46:37,430 MY NAME IS NIA. 777 00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:38,740 I'M FROM WHITTIER. 778 00:46:38,740 --> 00:46:43,109 MY QUESTION IS, WHAT WAS SALLY'S FAVORITE SUBJECT AND WHY? 779 00:46:43,109 --> 00:46:45,300 WHAT WAS HER FAVORITE SUBJECT? 780 00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:46,540 DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? 781 00:46:46,540 --> 00:46:48,200 WHAT WAS HER FAVORITE SUBJECT? 782 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,050 WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE SUBJECT? 783 00:46:51,050 --> 00:46:52,050 I LIKE READING. 784 00:46:52,050 --> 00:46:53,050 YOU LIKE READING. 785 00:46:53,050 --> 00:46:54,050 OKAY. 786 00:46:54,050 --> 00:46:55,099 SALLY LOVED TO READ. 787 00:46:55,099 --> 00:46:59,080 AND SO SHE LOVED TO READ ALL SORTS OF BOOKS. 788 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:05,130 AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY STARTING IN MIDDLE SCHOOL 789 00:47:05,130 --> 00:47:09,730 SCIENCE WAS†-- BECAME KIND OF ROSE ON THE LIST AND BECAME HER 790 00:47:09,730 --> 00:47:14,990 FAVORITE SUBJECT AND THEN BY THE TIME SHE GOT TO THE END OF HIGH 791 00:47:14,990 --> 00:47:18,610 SCHOOL AND COLLEGE, IT WAS REALLY†-- IT BECAME PHYSICS. 792 00:47:18,610 --> 00:47:20,250 WHO KNOWS WHAT PHYSICS IS. 793 00:47:20,250 --> 00:47:24,270 IT IS THE†-- IT IS THE WAY THE UNIVERSE WORKS. 794 00:47:24,270 --> 00:47:33,430 IT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL FORCES AND†-- WELL, FORCES IS PROBABLY 795 00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:34,930 THE WAY TO SAY IT. 796 00:47:34,930 --> 00:47:38,450 FORCES AND PARTICLES THAT DETERMINE EVERYTHING AND SHE WAS 797 00:47:38,450 --> 00:47:40,260 JUST FASCINATED TO KNOW THAT. 798 00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:43,750 AND SHE ALSO WAS A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, SHE LIKED THAT PHYSIC 799 00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:44,750 WAS HARD. 800 00:47:44,750 --> 00:47:45,750 YOU KNOW. 801 00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:47,680 SHE COULD SAY, I'M A PHYSICIST. 802 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,570 I LEARNED THAT HARD STUFF. 803 00:47:51,570 --> 00:47:54,480 I'M PRETTY COOL. 804 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,030 LET'S TAKE AN ONLINE QUESTION. 805 00:47:57,030 --> 00:48:03,570 WHICH IS WHAT WAS THE MOST SURPRISING THING YOU LEARNED 806 00:48:03,570 --> 00:48:06,349 ABOUT SALLY RIDE DOING YOUR RESEARCH? 807 00:48:08,349 --> 00:48:07,349 WE DID THAT ONE. 808 00:48:08,349 --> 00:48:13,500 I KNOW WHAT WE FOUND WHEN WE GOT TO THE HOUSE TO WORK THROUGH 809 00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:14,500 THINGS. 810 00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:18,780 I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW TO YOU GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF 811 00:48:18,780 --> 00:48:21,380 RE-EXAMINING ALL OF THESE THINGS AND TRYING TO WRITE THE 812 00:48:21,380 --> 00:48:24,440 BIOGRAPHY, WHAT IS THE MOST SURPRISING THING YOU LEARNED 813 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,440 DURING YOUR RESEARCH? 814 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,780 THAT IS A HARD QUESTION. 815 00:48:29,780 --> 00:48:37,310 YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T A SURPRISE, BUT IT WAS†-- IT WAS KIND OF A 816 00:48:37,310 --> 00:48:41,990 WONDERFUL REMINDER AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW THE ONE MINUTE VIDEO OF 817 00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:46,260 SALLY, YOU SEE IT IN THERE, AND IT WAS LIKE SALLY ENJOYED HER 818 00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:51,140 LIFE, SHE HAD†-- SHE WAS SMILING IN ALMOST EVERY SHOT DURING THE 819 00:48:51,140 --> 00:48:52,140 VIDEO. 820 00:48:52,140 --> 00:48:54,460 SHE WAS HAVING FUN WITH HER TEAMMATES. 821 00:48:54,460 --> 00:48:57,000 SHE WAS HAVING FUN BEING IN SPACE. 822 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,110 YOU KIND OF IMAGINED A PERSON BEING VERY SERIOUS OR MAYBE 823 00:49:02,110 --> 00:49:06,620 SCARED OR ALL SORTS OF THINGS AND SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY IN THE 824 00:49:06,620 --> 00:49:08,690 MOMENT, HAVING FUN. 825 00:49:08,690 --> 00:49:10,839 AND THAT WAS REALLY SALLY. 826 00:49:10,839 --> 00:49:14,099 I, YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACK AND TALKING TO HER MOTHER AND HER 827 00:49:14,099 --> 00:49:17,710 SISTER AND HAVING THEM, YOU KNOW, RETELL THE FAMILY STORIES 828 00:49:17,710 --> 00:49:24,359 AND THE TRIPS TO EUROPE, AND VARIOUS THINGS, YOU KNOW, SALLY 829 00:49:24,359 --> 00:49:28,280 HAD A REALLY GOOD LIFE AND THE REASON SHE HAD A GOOD LIFE, SHE 830 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:33,270 WAS BLESSED WITH A VERY SOLID STABLE FAMILY, SHE WAS ALSO 831 00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:37,750 REALLY BLESSED WITH THE ABILITY TO LIVE IN THE PRESENT MOMENT. 832 00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:40,390 WHEN YOU'RE WITH SALLY, SHE WAS WITH YOU. 833 00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:41,640 SHE WASN'T DISTRACTED. 834 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,750 SHE WASN'T LOOKING BACK. 835 00:49:42,750 --> 00:49:44,339 SHE WASN'T LOOKING FORWARD. 836 00:49:44,339 --> 00:49:49,120 AND SHE REALLY†-- SHE HAD A VERY FUN AND FULFILLING LIFE. 837 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:54,140 SO, YEAH, IT WAS KIND OF THAT REMINDER THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE HAD 838 00:49:54,140 --> 00:49:55,140 FUN. 839 00:49:55,140 --> 00:49:56,700 SHE WAS A HAPPY KID. 840 00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:58,340 SHE WAS A HAPPY TEENAGER. 841 00:49:58,340 --> 00:50:00,940 SHE WAS A HAPPY ASTRONAUT. 842 00:50:00,940 --> 00:50:05,589 AND APROPOS OF THAT, WHEN SHE LANDED, AFTER HER FIRST MISSION, 843 00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:11,400 SHE SAID, I THINK THAT'S THE MOST FUN I WILL EVER HAVE IN MY 844 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,400 LIFE. 845 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,400 YES. 846 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,660 DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? 847 00:50:15,660 --> 00:50:20,440 MY NAME IS CASIZ. 848 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:29,060 MY QUESTION IS, HOW DOES HER ATHLETIC ABILITY HELP HER TO BE 849 00:50:31,130 --> 00:50:30,060 AN ASTRONAUT? 850 00:50:33,130 --> 00:50:32,130 GOOD QUESTION. 851 00:50:33,130 --> 00:50:34,760 MARGARET ADDRESSED THAT A MINUTE AGO. 852 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,119 BUT YOU'RE AN ATHLETE TOO. 853 00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:41,630 MAYBE YOU CAN COMMENT ON SOME OF THE CHARACTERISTICS. 854 00:50:41,630 --> 00:50:43,200 YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY THINK IT IS TWO THINGS. 855 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:50,960 IT IS†-- IT IS THE†-- ESPECIALLY AT THAT TIME, IT IS SORT OF THE 856 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:57,380 UNIQUENESS OF†-- IT MAKES YOU STAND OUT, IF YOU APPLY FOR A 857 00:50:57,380 --> 00:51:02,210 JOB OR EVEN APPLY TO GO TO COLLEGE, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING 858 00:51:02,210 --> 00:51:05,000 ELSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ON A SOCCER TEAM, OR YOU PLAY 859 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,310 VOLLEYBALL, YOU PLAY TENNIS, IT MAKES YOU STAND OUT. 860 00:51:09,310 --> 00:51:12,220 AND SO THAT HELPS AND THAT'S WHAT MARGARET WAS REFERRING TO 861 00:51:12,220 --> 00:51:17,410 WHEN SALLY APPLIED TO BECOME AN ASTRONAUT IN 1977. 862 00:51:17,410 --> 00:51:23,030 THE OTHER THING IS PLAYING SPORTS AND HAVING TO WORK WITH 863 00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:27,410 COACHES AND TEACHERS AND TEAMMATES AND ALSO BEING IN 864 00:51:27,410 --> 00:51:32,220 COMPETITION, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WIN ALL THE TIME, YOU LOSE AND 865 00:51:32,220 --> 00:51:35,230 YOU GOT TO LEARN TO COPE WITH THAT AND†-- 866 00:51:35,230 --> 00:51:36,230 THAT'S MY MIKE. 867 00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:37,230 SORRY. 868 00:51:37,230 --> 00:51:40,160 AND SO THERE IS LOTS OF REALLY COOL LESSONS YOU LEARN FROM 869 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,160 SPORTS. 870 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,430 OR PLAYING A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT, OR ANY OF THE OTHER 871 00:51:44,430 --> 00:51:49,660 EXTRACURRICULAR THINGS THAT YOU LOVE, THEY HELP YOU IN ALL 872 00:51:49,660 --> 00:51:50,930 ASPECTS OF LIFE. 873 00:51:50,930 --> 00:51:54,380 SO†-- AND, YOU KNOW, SALLY, AS PART OF OUR COMPANY, THIS IS 874 00:51:54,380 --> 00:51:58,140 BEYOND YOUR QUESTION, BUT I GO OFF. 875 00:51:58,140 --> 00:52:02,500 BUT SALLY WOULD, AS PART OF OUR COMPANY, WOULD GIVE TALKS AROUND 876 00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:06,200 THE COUNTRY AND MANY TIMES PARENTS OR TEACHERS WOULD SAY, 877 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:11,320 YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT THIS SMART KID, BOY OR GIRL, AND BUT THE 878 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,990 TROUBLE IS, YOU KNOW, THE TROUBLE WITH MY DAUGHTER OR SON 879 00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:16,980 IS THEY LIKE FOOTBALL OR THEY LIKE†-- THEY WANT TO PLAY THE 880 00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:20,480 CLARINET AND SALLY WOULD SAY, SO WHAT, LET THEM DO IT. 881 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,530 YOU DON'T†-- TO BE A SCIENTIST OR TO BE ANYTHING†-- YOU DON'T 882 00:52:23,530 --> 00:52:25,810 ARE TO JUST DO ONE THING. 883 00:52:25,810 --> 00:52:29,850 BECAUSE IF YOU FOLLOW THE THINGS YOU ENJOY DOING, THEY HELP 884 00:52:29,850 --> 00:52:32,650 EVERYTHING KIND OF REINFORCES EVERYTHING ELSE. 885 00:52:32,650 --> 00:52:37,601 ANYWAY, SORRY FOR 48 HOUR LONG QUESTION AND ANSWER. 886 00:52:37,601 --> 00:52:40,619 IF I COULD COMMENT ON THE PHOTOGRAPH WE HAD WITH THE FOUR 887 00:52:40,619 --> 00:52:46,040 GIRLS LINED UP AT THE NET ON THE TENNIS COURT, THE ONE THAT IS 888 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,619 SECOND FROM THE LEFT IS TAM O'SHAUGHNESSY AND ON THE RIGHT 889 00:52:50,619 --> 00:52:52,640 I'D SIDE IS SALLY RIDE. 890 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:57,030 YOU WERE COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER. 891 00:52:57,030 --> 00:53:01,000 AS I RECALL THE STORY, YOU WERE ACTUALLY THE BETTER PLAYER. 892 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,170 YOU PLAYED PRO FOR A WHILE. 893 00:53:02,170 --> 00:53:06,060 I WOULD SAY THAT AND SALLY COULDN'T DENY IT. 894 00:53:06,060 --> 00:53:10,680 SHE CAN'T CHANGE THE STORY. 895 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,560 WELL, I THINK†-- ONE LAST†-- 896 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:14,800 OH, OKAY. 897 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,990 I'M CHARLOTTE FROM ATLANTA, GEORGIA. 898 00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:21,270 AND MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, MEN AND WOMEN WERE TRADITIONALLY 899 00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:24,570 KEPT SEPARATE LIKE IN THE MILITARY AND HERE SHE IS A WOMAN 900 00:53:24,570 --> 00:53:26,060 IN SPACE WITH ALL THESE MEN. 901 00:53:26,060 --> 00:53:28,119 I WONDER HOW THAT WAS FOR HER. 902 00:53:28,119 --> 00:53:30,450 HOW DID THEY TREAT HER AS A WOMAN? 903 00:53:30,450 --> 00:53:31,950 THAT'S MY QUESTION. 904 00:53:31,950 --> 00:53:34,300 YEAH, SO†-- I THINK THEY TREATED HER LIKE 905 00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:37,150 ONE OF THE GUYS AND SHE CONSIDERED HERSELF ONE OF THE 906 00:53:37,150 --> 00:53:38,550 GUYS. 907 00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:40,020 SHE USED THAT PHRASE. 908 00:53:40,020 --> 00:53:43,579 AND MARGARET CAN BACK ME UP ON THIS, I THINK, THOSE FIRST OF 909 00:53:43,579 --> 00:53:47,440 SIX WOMEN THAT WERE SELECTED INTO THE ASTRONAUT CORE DID NOT 910 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,430 WANT ANY CONCESSIONS MADE TO THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR SEX. 911 00:53:52,430 --> 00:53:55,950 THE ONLY THING THEY ASKED FOR WAS A SEPARATE RESTROOM AND 912 00:53:55,950 --> 00:53:59,920 SHOWER IN THE GYM AT JOHNSON SPACE CENTER. 913 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:04,349 OTHER THAN THAT, YOU'RE ON A CREW, ALL THERE TO ACCOMPLISH 914 00:54:04,349 --> 00:54:07,940 YOUR MISSION, YOU ALL CARRY THE SAME LOAD. 915 00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:09,670 AND YOU'RE PART OF THE TEAM. 916 00:54:09,670 --> 00:54:14,130 BY THE TIME THEY FLEW IN SPACE, THEY WERE SHARING AN OFFICE 917 00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:15,460 TOGETHER FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. 918 00:54:15,460 --> 00:54:19,640 THEY HAVE BEEN ON WILDERNESS SURVIVAL TRAINING TOGETHER. 919 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,690 THEY WERE ESSENTIALLY A FAMILY. 920 00:54:21,690 --> 00:54:25,750 IT WAS LIKE IN A WAY†-- IT WAS HARD WORK, BUT IT WAS ALSO LIKE 921 00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:28,369 GOING CAMPING WITH YOUR BEST FRIENDS. 922 00:54:28,369 --> 00:54:31,859 SO SHE NEVER REPORTED ANY DISCOMFORT. 923 00:54:31,859 --> 00:54:36,430 I THINK SHE DID SUGGEST THAT THEY ADD A PRIVACY CURTAIN TO 924 00:54:36,430 --> 00:54:39,920 THE TOILET COMPARTMENT, WHICH WAS LITERALLY A LITTLE CLOSET 925 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,820 ALMOST AND IT WAS AWKWARD TO CLOSE THE DOOR. 926 00:54:43,820 --> 00:54:48,579 SHE SUGGESTED A CURTAIN AND THEY ALL BENEFITED FROM THAT. 927 00:54:48,579 --> 00:54:51,900 I THINK NASA WORRIED A LOT BEFORE WOMEN JOINED THE 928 00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:56,869 ASTRONAUT CORE ABOUT HOW WOULD THIS WORK IN SUCH A SMALL SPACE. 929 00:54:56,869 --> 00:55:00,840 AND PART OF THE REASON IT WORKED IS THAT THOSE FIRST SIX WOMEN, 930 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,530 SALLY RIDE AND THE OTHERS WHO WERE IN THAT CLASS FROM 1978, 931 00:55:05,530 --> 00:55:08,451 WERE SO GOOD AT WHAT THEY DID. 932 00:55:08,451 --> 00:55:10,450 THEY WERE JUST DEEPLY COMPETENT. 933 00:55:10,450 --> 00:55:15,420 IF THEY WERE GIVEN A TASK, THEY LEARNED EVERY PART OF THE TASK. 934 00:55:15,420 --> 00:55:21,040 AND THAT WAS IN A GROUP OF 35 NEW SHUTTLE ASTRONAUTS, WHO WERE 935 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,010 ALL DEEPLY†-- I MEAN, DEEPLY CONFIDENT, YOU DON'T GET THAT 936 00:55:24,010 --> 00:55:28,320 JOB WITHOUT WORKING VERY HARD AND SO I THINK THEY PROVED 937 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,410 THEMSELVES EQUAL TO THAT AND THEN BY THE TIME THEY WENT INTO 938 00:55:32,410 --> 00:55:36,140 SPACE, THEY WEREN'T THINKING ABOUT, OH, THIS IS THE ONE WOMAN 939 00:55:36,140 --> 00:55:40,560 OR THEY WERE A GROUP WITH A TASK AND THEY WERE ALL VERY 940 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,560 INTERESTED IN DOING IT WELL. 941 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,859 I WOULD SAY THAT†-- I THINK THE ASTRONAUTS FELT THAT WAY. 942 00:55:42,859 --> 00:55:47,630 I THINK THE PUBLIC IS WHO HAD THE DIFFICULTY KIND OF WITH 943 00:55:47,630 --> 00:55:48,630 THAT. 944 00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:53,020 AND YOU GET THE FRUSTRATION, IF YOU SEE SALLY IN HER INTERVIEWS 945 00:55:53,020 --> 00:55:57,130 WHEN THEY'RE ASKING, YOU KNOW, DO YOU CRY WHEN YOU GET UPSET, 946 00:55:57,130 --> 00:56:00,230 YOU DON'T ASK THE GUYS THAT QUESTION, AND, YOU KNOW, SO I 947 00:56:00,230 --> 00:56:02,569 THINK THAT WAS VERY FRUSTRATING FOR HER. 948 00:56:02,569 --> 00:56:05,680 WITHIN THE CREW THEMSELVES, THEY WERE ALSO CONFIDENT 949 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,990 PROFESSIONALS, I DON'T THINK THEY SAW IT AT ALL. 950 00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:11,069 IT WAS JUST A GROUP, TOGETHER. 951 00:56:11,069 --> 00:56:15,220 THERE WERE FOLKS WHO THERE ROSES FOR HER WHEN SHE LANDED. 952 00:56:15,220 --> 00:56:18,099 AND SHE DID NOT TAKE THEM, THEY WERE NOT ROSES FOR THE WHOLE 953 00:56:18,099 --> 00:56:19,099 CREW. 954 00:56:19,099 --> 00:56:22,500 SO SHE WAS NOT INTERESTED IN BEING SINGLED OUT IN THAT WAY 955 00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:27,300 AS, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF MISS AMERICA MOMENT. 956 00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:32,260 I THINK FOR A PERSON WHO NEVER SOUGHT CELEBRITY, SHE DID 957 00:56:32,260 --> 00:56:38,810 GRADUALLY LEARN HOW TO COPE WITH CELEBRITY BUT SHE LIVED HER LIFE 958 00:56:38,810 --> 00:56:40,200 AS A PRIVATE PERSON. 959 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,369 AND WHEN SHE NEEDED TO BE IN PUBLIC, SHE COULD ADOPT THAT 960 00:56:42,369 --> 00:56:43,369 ROLE. 961 00:56:43,369 --> 00:56:46,360 I THINK IT TOOK A TOLL ON HER. 962 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,020 IT EXHAUSTED HER. 963 00:56:48,020 --> 00:56:51,460 SOME PEOPLE ARE ENERGIZED BY BEING IN THE PUBLIC EYE. 964 00:56:51,460 --> 00:56:54,680 SHE NEEDED TO RETREAT FROM THAT AND SHE HAD A REALLY GOOD SENSE 965 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,720 OF HOW TO KEEP THAT BALANCE IN HER LIFE. 966 00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:00,930 I WOULD LOVE TO KEEP THIS CONVERSATION GOING FOR THE REST 967 00:57:00,930 --> 00:57:01,930 OF THE AFTERNOON. 968 00:57:01,930 --> 00:57:07,970 BUT I KNOW THAT OUR AUDIENCE IS ONLINE, AND TELEVISION AND EVEN 969 00:57:07,970 --> 00:57:12,260 HERE PROBABLY HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS THEY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH 970 00:57:12,260 --> 00:57:13,470 THIS AFTERNOON. 971 00:57:13,470 --> 00:57:17,460 AND WE'RE GOING TO WHISK TAM OFF TO A BOOK SIGNING. 972 00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:21,720 BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK BOEING AGAIN FOR 973 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,470 SPONSORING THIS SERIES OF PROGRAMS. 974 00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:26,319 WHAT'S NEW IN AEROSPACE. 975 00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:29,260 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE STUDENTS FROM BOTH SCHOOLS WHO 976 00:57:29,260 --> 00:57:30,470 CAME TODAY. 977 00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:31,670 THANK YOU FOR COMING. 978 00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:36,550 I HOPE YOU'RE HERE NOT JUST BECAUSE IT GOT YOU OUT OF CLASS 979 00:57:36,550 --> 00:57:37,829 FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS. 980 00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:42,210 BUT BECAUSE YOU REALLY WANTED TO COME TO THE MUSEUM. 981 00:57:42,210 --> 00:57:47,040 AND I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR PANELISTS, PATTY 982 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:54,660 WILLIAMS, ARCHIVIST, TAM O'SHAUGHNESSY, AUTHOR, EDUCATOR 983 00:57:54,660 --> 00:57:57,180 AND BIOGRAPHER OF SALLY RIDE. 984 00:57:57,180 --> 00:58:01,510 YOU CAN TELL, I THINK, THAT WE ESTABLISHED A RELATIONSHIP OVER 985 00:58:01,510 --> 00:58:04,690 THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND YOU ALWAYS DO ESTABLISH A 986 00:58:04,690 --> 00:58:08,460 RELATIONSHIP WITH A DONOR, BUT SOMETIMES IT IS A BUSINESS 987 00:58:08,460 --> 00:58:09,900 RELATIONSHIP. 988 00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:12,450 SOMETIMES IT IS A MUCH MORE PERSONAL ONE. 989 00:58:12,450 --> 00:58:14,910 AND WE ALL REALLY ENJOY EACH OTHER. 990 00:58:14,910 --> 00:58:16,740 AND WE REALLY ENJOYED WORKING TOGETHER. 991 00:58:16,740 --> 00:58:21,290 AND WE'RE MOST APPRECIATIVE THAT TAM CHOSE THE NATIONAL AIR AND 992 00:58:21,290 --> 00:58:26,960 SPACE MUSEUM TO BE THE PLACE TO GO TO FIND OBJECTS AND PAPERS 993 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,460 FROM SALLY RIDE'S LIFE. 994 00:58:29,460 --> 00:58:33,579 IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN 995 00:58:33,579 --> 00:58:38,349 WATCHING THIS PROGRAM, IT WILL BE ON OUR WEBSITE, THE NATIONAL 996 00:58:38,349 --> 00:58:42,400 AIR AND SPACE MUSEUM'S WEBSITE, STARTING TOMORROW. 997 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,750 AND IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY WATCHING NASA TELEVISION AT HOME, NASA 998 00:58:46,750 --> 00:58:50,609 WILL BE SHOWING IT THROUGHOUT THE DAY TODAY AND TOMORROW. 999 00:58:50,609 --> 00:58:57,160 SO SPREAD THE WORD THAT YOU NOW KNOW WHAT HISTORIANS AND 1000 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,099 ARCHIVISTS DO AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING 1001 00:59:01,099 --> 00:59:07,500 OF SALLY RIDE'S SIGNIFICANCE, NOT JUST AS AN ASTRONAUT, BUT AS